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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Of course Reagan meant [white] immigrants.

It's ridiculous how far right the USA has moved when it comes to immigration.

Agreed, and I think maybe we should remove the plaque from the Statue of Liberty as it clearly no longer applies.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[–] Bamboodpanda 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reagan was an idiot about a lot of things. His policies were often at odds with his rhetoric which was quite progressive for its time and place. If you listened to him though, he was not openly hostile to immigration. Neither him nor H.W. where on the scale of today's right.

https://youtu.be/YsmgPp_nlok?si=D5c5Bm5HRG1uw4jC

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I really think the right of the 80s/90s is way different than todays right.

[–] bitwaba 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

ah I'm mistaken. why do they hate NATO so much?

[–] Doomsider -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Woah your saying the right is suddenly anti-immigration now? That is really nonsensical and ignores a lot of history.

[–] Bamboodpanda 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Did you watch that clip of H.W. and Reagan? The rhetoric is clearly pro-immigration. They are the "right" I am referring to in history and where they are at on the Overton Window. It also depends on what you mean by immigration. At that point in time, the Overton Window was center right.

[–] Doomsider 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their rhetoric at the time was more friendly, but Regan deported more than Obama, Trump, or Biden

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1gbdxut/oc_deportations_and_total_cases_under_us/?rdt=65350

[–] Bamboodpanda 2 points 5 days ago

Go back and read my comment. I said his rhetoric didn't match his policies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Watch the video.

[–] Doomsider 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right. The rhetoric didn't match with the policies.

The video, if you'll ever watch it, shows them talking about things thier policies didn't line up with.

[–] Doomsider 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah it was a different time for sure having two Republicans talking so positively about immigration reform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Clearly they aren't sending their best.