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Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
This isnt about the hostages, this is Israel engaging in Genocide to eradicate and forcibly displace the Palestinian people. Gaza has never stopped being under Israeli occupation since 1967. Hamas only exists because of the Apartheid Occupation of Israel and the daily violence that has subjected Palestinians to for generations. Israel has always been the obstacle for peace, and has been the one preventing a ceasefire.
De-development via the Gaza Occupation
Page 402
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
Blockade, including Aid
Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.
After the 'disengagement' in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of 'dual-use' Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.
Peace Process and Solution
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Human Shields
Hamas:
HRW on Laws-of-War Violations 2009
Agency Demands Full Respect for the Sanctity of Its Premises in Gaza - July 2014
HRW - Palestinian Armed Groups’ October 7 Assault on Israel
Israel:
Israel/OPT: Israeli attacks targeting Hamas and other armed group fighters that killed scores of displaced civilians in Rafah should be investigated as war crimes
HRW - Gaza: Unlawful Israeli Hospital Strikes Worsen Health Crisis
Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields:
IDF uses Human Shields,
Including Children (2013 Report)
Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds 2024
Breaking The Silence - Testimonies from IDF Veterans
Deliberate Attacks on Civilians
Israel deliberately targets civilian areas. From in general with the Dahiya Doctrine to multiple systems deployed in Gaza to do so:
The Dahiya Doctrine & Israel’s Use of Disproportionate Force
‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
Lavender
Where's Daddy
Israel also targets Israeli Soldiers and Civilians to prevent them being leveraged as hostages, known as the Hannibal Directive. Which was also used on Oct 7th.
It would take too much time to try and point out to you how brainwashed you are with half truths and misinformation.
99% of Gaza still alive after one year of this "mass assassination factory."
And for fucks sake stop accusing the IDF of using human shields. That happened like literally five times. It's a crime. The IDF people who do it face a court martial.
Gaza uses entire schools, apartment buildings, hospitals, and their own families as actual human shields. And then they cheer with giddy excitement when their own families get killed, just so they can bitch about how they are the real victims. Hamas and Hamas supporters are not victims. They are perpetrators.
They do not want peace. They never made a serious peace offer. The demands that you're referring to are utter bullshit, which again you leave out half of the details, conveniently the half that's most ridiculous, such as Hamas agreeing to release hostages only if the IDF releases every Hamas member. LOL. That's not a serious offter and was never going to be entertained. It was only proposed to trick dotards such as yourself that Hamas was proceeding in good faith.
I don't know how to make this any simpler form you: criminals don't get to dictate the terms by which they are arrested and prosecuted, or the terms by which they are targeted in war.
Hamas can either surrender or die. There's is no third outcome for Hamas. How much of Gaza they want to take with them is up to them and the people not Gaza. I'm sure Hamas would want to take 100% of Gaza. So far, it seems 99% of the Gaza is NOT willing to go huddle up around some Hamas commander to try and deter an air strike. Only the most extreme Gazans seem to be going along with Hamas on that one. That's the option for peace, those 99% of people in Gaza who left north Gaza, who aren't huddled up in tunnels to shield Hamas members. There is no path to peace that involves catering to actual terrorists and you sound delusional suggesting otherwise.
Same for Hezzbollah: they can stop launching thousands of rockets at Israel, or they can get bombed and pushed back until they're dead or beyond range for their rockets.
Yes, I know, it's very sad that terrorists have radicalized the population and 1% of Gaza goes along with it. Boo hoo.
It seems pretty reasonable to accuse them of something they have done repeatedly.
And this isn't "minding their own business near something we want to bomb," like the claims against Hamas, these are cases of people literally and directly used as shields.
Sure, it can be reasonable. Using it as "whataboutism" though isn't a legitimate argument.
Hamas uses entire cities. Millions of people. Generations of young men and women who might otherwise prosper except they are born into a place run by Hamas.
It's disgusting when anyone uses human shields. In Israel it's a crime. In Gaza, it's a the greatest hope of the leadership, that a civilian might die to an Israeli bomb.
Can you explain exactly how? How can someone sat in their home above a tunnel they did not create or possibly even know about be a human shield? That is meaningfully different to being strapped to the front of a car or forced into a booby trapped tunnel at gunpoint, no?
Voluntary vs involuntary human shields. Hamas plundered the wealth of all Gaza and used it to build 500 miles of tunnels in an area only 25 miles wide.
It is meaningfully different, yes. There's been a handful of strapping people to a car. It's a crime in Israel. People have been imprisoned for it.
~5 people < ~2,000,000 people.
5 people is basically an isolated incident.
2,000,000 people decade over decade is a modus operandi.
And yet not a single citation here. 🤔
I'm not trying to spread propoganda so I don't have a database of links ready to copy and paste. I'm also not staying any facts that cannot be easily verified.
“trust me bro these facts are soooo easily verified. i won’t do it but it’s so easy bro i swear.”
Come on now. Is this easily verified? Is it even true?
thanks for your effort in putting this together. praying it falls on more attentive ears than deaf.
Anyone can throw a few links together from literal propaganda outlets of foreign state media and from people who begin every single "article" with "Click Here to Donate!"
Praying this doesn't fall on the blind. You, know, because you can see with your own eyes what's happening in Gaza.
“oh nooooo the non-profit site asks for donations” 😂 i guess every wikipedia article is also propaganda