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50+% America, you'll get what you wanted. Also those who didn't vote will get what they deserve.
Since only somewhere around 65% of people voted and Trump got almost half the votes that means approximately 2/3rds of Americans are at least okay with having Trump as president and fascists in power.
Not everyone that didn’t vote supports this. Some people just couldn’t get the day off because they’re living day by day and couldn’t take a day off to wait in line for 5 hours at the one polling place in their city.
Don't you guys have mail voting?
Most of the US doesn’t, or you need a “valid” excuse, which usually doesn’t include working. I’m lucky to live in a state that does default mail in voting.
Still, those are probably not enough to invalidate my argument
You assume those who didn't vote, would vote for Harris. An unfounded assumption
Inaction makes you complicit. Not voting does not give you any moral high ground, especially when one of the people being voted for is a fascist. These people would rather let fascism run free and wait for a golden unicorn instead of making slow and steady progress with imperfect candidates.
More and more I remember Kreia telling The Exile that "apathy is death".
10 million less votes for Democrats and only 5000000 more votes for trump since last election. Yes I assume a large portion would have.
In states where they don't matter by in large. It's a weird complaint to be honest, of people didn't vote they either had a reason or weren't engaged and that isn't exactly their fault.
I'm sorry, but if I completely skip evaluating Harris to make this easier... I would vote for a box of pizza before tRump.
I think its ok if someone doesnt vote. I also think they forfeit their right to complain.
Now tell us your thoughts on latinos that don't agree with you. What do you hope happens to them?
Lotta libs soundin real fuckin evil lately
i’ll bite.
i hope they get exactly what they voted for.
Lol. How brave /s
Show your true colors y'all! Finally, you can stop pretending you truly care about struggling Americans that don't share the same values as you - coincidentally, exactly like your slightly more racist/white-supremacist neighbors
Hopefully we can at least admit rural folks are absolutely correct in feeling like we hate them. I mean, that still won't win us any elections but it's a step in the right direction - one towards a more honest party
By values, you mean supporting a violent and openly fascist political party whose main goal is to hunt migrants to deport?
Lol, is that the same logic you apply to the civil war? The North just hated the South for their rural ways?
I wouldn't agree with what the person you are responding to says, because I don't think anyone deserves not be ripped from their homes. But I can understand why people would wish unpleasant times to people who voted to do exactly that.
Falsely equivocating all of that down to, "hating rural folks" for their country ways is inaccurate, ahistorical, and highly reductive.
No? What did I say that made you think I'm a trump supporter? I'm criticizing folks for celebrating harm coming to their fellow Americans.
No? I'm honestly not sure I understand your question about the civil war. The parallel throws me off because the point I'm making is Dems are maybe not "just as racist" as Rs but the fact they're proving latinos were seen as pawns to be used when the Dems platform was basically everything Rs wanted while Trump was in office (minus family separations. let me know if you think I'm totally off). There's certainly parallels to the civil war, the Northerners absolutely did not like it when free black American citizens first started to move there when fleeing terrorism I'm the South. That's how we got red-lining and the modern for-profit prison system.
I am absolutely not doing what you're saying. Let me know how I came off that way. I'm trying to be as specific as possible here. People that are celebrating bad things happening to their fellow Americans. Stop. That's it. That is gross, to me. I think it's bad philosophy and atrocious politics. We're not in a civil war, we're discussing how our fellow citizens ~~voted~~ not how they shot at our kids. Wait, it's not even that. We're simply discussing Americans that didn't know anything.
Here's my silly accusatory question: Our people didn't vote. Because of that we celebrate latinos being deported?
Wish this could be a light conversation. This is truly not that serious. It's a chat on fuckin lemmy (imagine this place is huge one day. lol)
Mostly it's the regurgitation of radical propaganda.......
The civil war parallel was made because you are parroting propaganda that's been endemic in the South for the last 150 years. That the war wasn't about slavery, that the North just hated rural people's culture.
Ahh yes, because a minority of of internet strangers have some bad takes, the two parties are basically the same.........except for the little caveat of family separation and interment camps thing, and even though Trump's main campaign promise was to immediately deport everyone he can.....
And how is that a parallel to modern times? Pretty sure there were sanctuary cities all over during Trump's first presidency.
You're talking about two separate times in history separated by a hundred years of lived history. After the civil war, before conservatives torpedos reconstruction, black Americans actually gained a lot of economic and political power. Redlining and the modern prison system were a reactionary response by conservatives to desegregation.
You just so happen to be parroting several different pieces of propaganda used to falsely equivocate the both sides argument popular among accelerationists and radical conservatives...Interesting.
Who is our people?
I wish we could just have a light conversation about the fascist said the German to the Jews......
It's almost like even tangentially supporting fascism isnt a light hearted conversation?
Understanding that people regularly vote against their own interest and then gleefully celebrate them doing so........ You are also sounding real fucking evil bud.
I don't understand what you're saying. I'm trying to do the exact opposite of celebrating anyone's misfortune. That's kinda gross, to me
I know people that can't even vote that are likely going to have to seriously consider what states they visit or worse. It's wild that people that supposedly voted against it now support it because they want to feel good about themselves. Classic American shit, tbh
Oh please, the specific criticism you brought up unprovoked has been repeated nearly exclusively by leftist accelerationists who are too busy virtue signaling to even bother to participate with electorial harm reduction.
What exactly are you referring to? I'm saying I think it's gross to celebrate bad things happening to people you disagree with. If my brother was happy that I was scammed, I'd think he's a dick. If he later said he actually cared about me I'd remember him laughing.
I simply don't see my fellow Americans as the enemy, I see them as people I disagree with. I see the wealthy people and the institutions that protect them as the enemy. Helping to divide poor people is very much against what I'd consider good politics
You're saying leftist accelerationists are saying that? Weren't they saying don't vote/vote Trump because that will help people realize they need change or some bs like that? How did/does it seem like I'm saying that? What did I comment that caused you to have that assumption/reaction to what I was saying? The election's over. Votes are cast. Let's not be sore losers. Let's talk. Let's learn. Idk, back to basics time, to me. This is not the time to say I knew/know everything, no one better try to approach me with an alternative POV
That said, I get there's a lot of pressure from bad actors testing literally everything we believe in.