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[–] TheDemonBuer 83 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It's up to the rest of the world now. We can't put climate action on hold for four years in hopes that a new administration will take over in 2029 that will lead the world in the transition away from fossil fuels.

The world has gotten very used to US leadership since the end of WWII, but that era is over. Maybe it should have ended a long time ago, but now it must. The US can't lead anymore, we lack the competency, efficacy, and morality to lead the world. Someone else is going to have to captain the ship.

I think it's important that America's replacement not be just the next most powerful nation. I think it's time for democracy to go global. We need the nations working together, instead of a single nation dominating the world through military might and economic control. The violent hegemonic orders of the past must be replaced with a global democratic order, based on inclusion, cooperation, and the consent of the governed.

Edit: I realized that I need to explain what I mean when I say that someone other than the US needs to take the leadership role in the transition away from fossil fuels. Climate action in an individual country is a very good thing, and very necessary, but climate change is a global problem. It's great that countries are taking steps to reduce their own GHG emissions, but unless such action is taken everywhere it's not going to be sufficient. GHG emissions have to reach net zero everywhere, not just in a few, relatively wealthy European countries. That will require cooperation and collaboration between nations, and I think that will require leadership. The US cannot be relied upon to lead that effort, so someone else is going to have to.

[–] disguy_ovahea 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

On hold? That’s very optimistic of you.

Trump repealed 112 environmental regulations in his first term, during a pandemic, without preparation, rolling us back to the Bush Administration in multiple categories.

I think we’re going to go backwards again, most likely at a faster rate than his last term.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

WWII has been over for almost 80 years. And that era ending with the reputation that America had been carrying since from it, died the day 9/11 happened. Ever since then, America has been struggling, scrambling and trying to come to grips with it's identity. Something that's just been treated as just a huge power struggle, a power struggle of extreme petty matters between two parties. But one party in particular that for every election cycle and terms handed to, have been outright sabotaging what it meant to be America.

And it hasn't gotten any easier. The problem is, is that the candidates of what you seek for a replacement, is very very narrow. There are few superpowers in the world that could do it, the problem is, is that those superpowers are China, Russia and USA. I know there are others and right now if I had to pick a replacement, I'd pick Sweden since they still care about humanitarianism. If we can unite Germany, Sweden and maybe the UK, those combined could replace USA.

[–] TheDemonBuer 17 points 1 month ago

It may need to be the EU. I know the EU isn't a nation, but as a block perhaps Europe has the power and influence to lead the effort. Maybe a new entity needs to be established, a global union of nations. Or maybe a union of continents. Maybe each continent should establish its own union of nations (I think every continent already has some kind of union of one type or another) and then have a global union of continents. I don't necessarily know the best course of action, all I know is the US cannot lead.

[–] Doomsider 13 points 1 month ago

I think the real problem that no one in the US is prepared to deal with is we are the bad guys in almost every situation. Once you peel off the thin veneer of freedom and supposed rights you are left with a militaristic corporate oligarchy. One that regularly uses and abuses human beings.

It is no surprise we played both sides before being involved in WWII. Powerful influential people from the US helped bank roll the Nazi party.

Then when this poison tree bore fruits the Nazi came to the US and other countries asking that we take the Jews.

The same people who backed the Nazi party in the US said hell the fuck no and doomed the Jews to die.

Then we go in killing a shit ton of innocent civilians and declare we are good guys. That's right the people who helped create the Nazi and deny the Jews safety are the good fucking guys. Unfucking believable.

The truth behind the US is so ugly no one can truly face it. This is just one story in the book of fuckups we have perpetrated around the world.