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The people in cities and in blue states made this economic turn around happen. Trump does not deserve the credit he will claim. Burn it down.

Edit: If you leave this thread learning anything please let it be this one thing. Organic political movement isn't schemed up in a board room or carefully planned and executed every step of the way. It starts inside of you and people like you and you lend your support not knowing the outcome but believing in the cause. If it's not here, it's not here. I don't mean to supply you with fuel needed but only the spark to ignite flame waiting to be ignited.

I'm out though.

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[–] Myxomatosis 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

My plan is to stop participating in the economy as much as I can. Only the basic necessities now. The fun times are over. Let’s help crash the Trump economy.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

a lot of us have been 'existing' on 'only the basic necessities' for years

[–] Myxomatosis 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s true. I guess I sounded privileged there.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 7 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe to some, but that doesn't minimize your stake in anything. We're all in this together.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Myxomatosis 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I would join one if it happens. I feel like one of the best ways to strike is just to stop buying shit. The economy thrives on American excess and consumption.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A consumption strike is still a strike, and honestly could be more effective than a traditional strike.

The US economy is essentially completely reliant on consumption at this point, it's the place where we have the most leverage.

It's also very easy for an authoritarian regime that is inbound by law to retaliate against traditional strikers. It's much harder to force us to consume.

It also doesn't have to be zero consumption, by loca, but used, use cash, barter, and trade.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

We need to heavily reduce consumption anyway. Remember the three Rs? Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. The first two quickly got dropped, recycling took off for a while as it was the more profitable and easiest to shift blame onto the consumer while maintaining consumption. Then we all learned very little could be or was being recycled, it was just being dumped elsewhere. Excess buying is one thing totally under our control. Maybe a better society can also come out of it.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is probably the only way a general strike in the U.S. would ever work. Employers are draconian, and nobody wants to be the first to risk their neck at their workplace for a normal strike.

The problem is organization, and keeping everybody to it for more than just a few days.

[–] Myxomatosis 1 points 2 weeks ago

You explained that very well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So you think people are going to pass on the last Christmas of We The People of the United States of America? You’re not wrong in your method but it’s like trying to get your workplace to unionize when they’re running on inertia, fear, and conflict avoidance.

Most people you know are conflict avoidant, sadly.

[–] Myxomatosis 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh I know it. Americans as a whole are selfish, spoiled and cowardly. Guess they have to learn the hard way.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 2 points 2 weeks ago

Christmas is a losing battle for a consumer side strike. We gotta pick our battles, and that ain't one of them. Pretty much any other time of the year would be fine, because for the most part people would only be personally sacrificing consuming things for themselves.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 5 points 2 weeks ago

And it thrives on our LABOR

[–] cultsuperstar 5 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone should save as much money as they can and probably not play the stock market. I have a feeling 401k's are going to take a gigantic shit.

I have no idea what's going to happen. I hope none of this happens. it's just a very pessimistic gut feeling.