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Asking as someone from the other side of the planet.

From the things I saw about the US election, the Dems were the side with plans for the economy - minimum wage adjustments, unions, taxing the rich, etc. The Republicans didn't seem to have any concrete plans. At least, this is what I saw.

I don't doubt Bernie Sanders though - he seems like a straight truth teller. But what am I missing?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

From the things I saw about the US election, the Dems were the side with plans for the economy - minimum wage adjustments, unions, taxing the rich, etc

The dems are in power now, they didn't do those things, so nobody believed they'd actually do it if they were elected again.

Additionally, parading around endorsements from Dick and Liz Cheney, and promising to build a border wall, tax breaks for small businesses, and other republican policies from 2016 didn't help the perception that the dems weren't going to help people.

[–] FuglyDuck 9 points 1 month ago

look at how Biden talked about the economy.

After stabilizing from COVID, it took him 2 or 3 years to figure out and even acknowledge that inflation is killing people’s financial outlook.

The first mention of that at all was at the NATO thing right before he dropped out.

Sure, he was handed an absolute shit show by Trump; but the messaging was incredibly tone deaf about it.

Same tone deaf manner as the “we’re going to be okay” comment earlier. We don’t all have millions and 246k pension, free health care and 24/7 protection. We’re not okay now, and it’s not going to be fine.

[–] SlopppyEngineer 6 points 1 month ago

That's probably the perception. Democrats have been in power for 4 years, things didn't get better for a lot of people and then they say to vote for them for more of the same. Surprisingly that doesn't help with voter enthusiasm. They'll have more chance next time with messaging things won't get worse with them after Trump mishandled stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Ah, but didn't Biden throw the train union under the bus? I think he did. And neither Biden nor Obama pushed to raise the minimum wage to a living wage, and also to key it to the cost of living.

Even though Biden's regulators did take some positive action, a lot of that was this calendar year. Why did he wait so long? A cynic would say he didn't believe in what he was doing, but even a non-cynic would say that it was a bad way to campaign, because you can't erase 3 years of incompetence with 1 year of regulation.