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[–] [email protected] 190 points 2 weeks ago (36 children)

The reality is even worse. They're going to "learn" all the wrong lessons. They will shift further to the right, like they always do.

[–] Resonosity 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

And this is one of the reasons why people shifted Republican in this last election.

If the Democratic party won't represent Democratic ideals, then out of either anger or apathy, their base will vote for the party that can do it better, Republicans, or not vote at all.

I agree with a lot of people on Lemmy that the average American is an idiot, and our shortening attention spans coupled with our changing media diets isn't helping with that, but I see these as features not bugs.

Americans in general like their shiny toys, and one of the best ways to capture their attention is by politicians giving concessions and offering things that will benefit their lives. Think carrots on sticks more than sticks themselves.

I will never stop hanging most of the blame on the Democratic party for leading us to today conclusion after Tuesday.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

People didn't shift Republican in this election. Trump got about the same number of votes as he did against Biden.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

no, but everyone wants to pretend that everyone became ultra-super racist idiot trump voters over the course of 4 years because they listened to a lot of joe rogan, rather than listening to a bunch of CNN like good little vote piggies. see one infographic of a bunch of red arrows everywhere and then everyone loses their fucking minds and decides that the only way to win the next election is to become more racist. if only they tack to the right harder, then they'll win, they just need to be more racist, see, and then it'll work!

and the problem is that this is exactly the lesson they want to learn. it's the lesson they have an interest in learning because they are also a right wing party. maybe it's because there's just gonna be more posters running around two days after the election because this is the top drama and it's eating up time they otherwise would've spent talking about celebrity drama or whatever, but we can talk for years about how the democrats, anywhere else, would be a center-right party of neoliberal warmongers that are fundamentally unwilling to give positive material concessions to basically any of their voters. as soon as the election gets called, that all vanishes, suddenly they've run the most perfect campaign of all time, and really, it was the voters that were at fault, and if anything, they should be more racist. it's not that the economy sucked, that they didn't present an enthusiastic, optimistic, or hell, coherent, vision of the future. no, it's because they just weren't racist enough.

it's 2016 all over again. the punishments will continue until morale improves, time is a flat circle, and I keep falling down the stairs.

do'h

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait, you think the republicans represent democratic ideals better…?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

They pretend better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is no way to read or infer that from their comment without some serious preconceived notions. That person made a statement of fact. They did not say anything about their opinion on the goodness or badness of that statement of fact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

If the Democratic party won't represent Democratic ideals, then out of either anger or apathy, their base will vote for the party that can do it better, Republicans

That’s where I’m getting that exact sentiment

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