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[–] GrammarPolice 41 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Idk man. There's this 3yr old girl that's a child of one of our family's friends. She's pretty expressive with her vocabulary. Like i can have full blown conversations with this girl without dumbing much down, and i think that might be due to her parents' pedanticalness.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Children pick up language at different rates. But also, while most kids learn words and build up, some learn to deploy whole chunks.

My cousin could say "Excuse me daddy could I please have a cookie?" at like 2 iirc. It sounds very advanced when you hear it, but she couldn't, for example, replace 'a cookie' with 'that' or direct the request to me rather than her dad.

Once kids have learned more and more chunks they can sound very proficient, but it's still just normal child language acquisition. Of course people gifted in language can happen too.

[–] NielsBohron 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also, no one is mentioning that there is still a significant amount of "translating" that has to happen. My kids all picked up language pretty quickly, but unless you are familiar enough with their specific pronunciation and vocabulary, it still sounds like baby talk to outsiders.

For example, last night when I got my 2yo out of the bath, he asked me for help putting on his favorite pajamas, if he could have a cookie, and asked to watch his favorite music video before bed, all in one sentence. But if you didn't know he pronounces pajamas as "comfy cozies," cookies are called "treat from under the stairs" and "hear wheelie rainbow neckshun" means watching Willie Nelson's cover of "Rainbow Connection," then of course it would sound like gibberish.

A baby's babbling can express fairly sophisticated grammar and sentence structure if you meet them halfway. And frankly, making it clear that you can understand them expressing their ideas in their own words is highly valuable when it comes to raising healthy, confident kids.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s because she’s 3.

Baby talk is for babies.

[–] GrammarPolice 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought we were referring to toddlers as well. Oh well

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

wait, toddlers and babies are significantly different terms? i've been speaking english for decades and thought they were effectively just synonyms..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a defined term(with variances of course), means between the age of 1 and 3. Weird definition though, really big difference between a 1 year old and a 3 years old child.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

pedanticalness

pedanticness ... OOOOOHHHHH!

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[–] GrammarPolice 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pedanticness is a noun that is considered obsolete and was only used in the mid-1600s.

I am only giving you a hard time bc (1) it's funny, all the more so bc (2) you are the police of these matters! :-D

[–] GrammarPolice 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pedanticness is a noun that is considered obsolete and was only used in the mid-1600s.

Erm, what can i say. I'm a connoisseur of the archaic.

I am only giving you a hard time because* (1) it's funny, all the more so because (2) you are the police of these matters! :-D

You don't wanna get on my bad side pal👮😎🔫

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh no, I'm in trouble now!

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

you better watch out for the pedantry

[–] Jivebunny 2 points 3 weeks ago

Nobody expects the Spanish Pedantry

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I’ve had a similar experience and came to the same conclusion.

I like to answer questions as if an adult had asked them and then provide the dumbed down answer after.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's very common for 3 year olds to speak very fluently already. My 2 year old niece babbles a lot but actually makes oddly complex sentences already that makes me pause.