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[–] Snailpope 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been wondering this for a while, wouldn't you want your candidate to poll poorly so more people who otherwise wouldn't vote and also prefer your candidate go out and vote? Wouldn't higher polling numbers cause people to rest assured their candidate will win and then not worry about voting? Obviously polls mean nothing, go out and vote

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They want to invent higher polling numbers so that when/if Trump loses, they can point at the polls as proof the election is rigged against him.

[–] CitizenKong 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also suspect that they want to avoid a complete narcissistic collapse of Trump.

[–] shalafi 2 points 1 month ago

A loss, coupled with his recent exhaustion, will for sure lead to narcissistic collapse. It's going to be wild.

[–] Snailpope 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good point, I didn't think about that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another thing is that people like to be on a winning team. People will avoid voting for someone they expect to lose. It's not going to affect the bulk of people, but anything that reduces low turnout voters actually voting is a win for the other side.

[–] Snailpope 2 points 1 month ago

That definitely makes sense

[–] givesomefucks 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Human variation...

You're assuming everyone thinks like you, but they don't.

Some just like to be "winners".

They wouldn't want to vote for trump if he loses, but if they think he'll win they'll jump on the bandwagon and vote.

[–] Snailpope 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] givesomefucks 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's fundamental brain differences that allow someone with literally a few minutes of training to predict political leaning like >70% (maybe it was even >80%) of the time from nothing but a brain scan...

Which might not sound that high, but it's fucking huge.

It's why the things that motivate conservatives (fear of the unknown) isn't what motivates progressives (empathy and solid plans for the future).

Republicans know their voters, they give them what they want: a Boogeyman to label as the enemy.

Dems however keep ignoring their base because "who else will they vote for?" and trying to court Republican voters using strategies that either piss of the base (being pro border wall) or just not be effective on conservative voters (talking about how trump will hurt others).

If you understand basic sociology/psychology, it's clearly the wrong path for the Dem party. Unfortunately the DNC only prioritizes how much donations someone can bring in when picking people for DNC leadership positions. And the people who prioritize money, rarely go into either sociology or psychology.

It legitimately shouldn't be this hard to beat fucking trump

The unelected people in charge of the only other option just don't know what the fuck they're doing. They just keep appealing to the wealthy to increase their donation amount because it's literally the only metric people are judged on at the DNC.

We desperately need to fix things before 2028, but if Kamala wins she appoints the head of the DNC, and if she loses Biden's pick stays.

[–] Snailpope 1 points 1 month ago

Yea,I know very little about phycology and nothing about sociology, so this was very enlightening.