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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've always found it interesting that using animals is a bad thing, but using plants in similar ways is fine. I guess there has to be a line somewhere, otherwise such a person would simply starve to death.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Animals aren't just used, they are tortured on a industrial scale. That's mainly why vegans oppose animal products.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Are bees tortured to get honey?

[–] shneancy 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yea of course, never heard of the bee grinder?

[–] idiomaddict 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We’ve been keeping them improperly in the winter since the mid 20th century, leading to unnecessary bee mortality within hives. Whether that’s torture or not is up to you, but it’s definitely unnecessary harm.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is suggesting that we should be using hive covers. What exactly changed in the mid 20th century?

[–] idiomaddict 2 points 2 months ago

We stopped using hive covers because they’re more expensive than the increased mortality. They naturally nest in tree hollows in winter, whose thicker walls (and living material) allow the hive to maintain a higher internal temperature than uncovered hives (or covered hives).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One good argument for this: A vegan diet not only minimizes animal deaths but plant deaths as well, since livestock obviously has to be fed on many, many individual plants before they can get slaughtered. So even if we for some reason prioritized saving the lives of plants going vegan would still be the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are varieties of Jainism that won't pluck fruits (will only eat what has naturally fallen) and many mainstream varieties of Jainism that won't eat any root vegetables (because digging them up would harm insects), or seeded vegetables (eating it harms the plants ability to reproduce).