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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The point isn't to get Trump into the Whitehouse; it's to get Vance into the whitehouse.

Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed. And Vance will be the one to take his place. Vance will be the one who is suddenly an "incumbant" backed by the heritage foundation who is actually reasonably well spoken, able to debate, far smarter than Trump, and younger.

Vance wasn't "chosen" by Trump, he came as a part of the deal with the Heritage Foundation to get him elected.

[–] meco03211 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My hope is that after Herr Trump finally croaks there will be a power vacuum in the party. Sure if he's elected and it happens in office there will be an effort to consolidate around Vance, but you know some looked over pissant is waiting in the wings to try to take the reins. If he's not elected it will likely be much more tumultuous. Here's hoping.

[–] flying_mechanic 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a figurehead and mouth piece only, it's clear the backing and power behind him is pushing him, not the other way around. If Trump is dead or unelectable then they will sub in someone else. Trump's "saving grace" is that he was good at speaking in a relatable but obfuscating way which worked to foment the masses against imagined grievances, but that's not a trait unique to him. He is unfortunately replaceable with not much loss in momentum.

[–] drphungky 4 points 2 months ago

Trump is definitely not a "figurehead only". He is a tiger that what's left of the Republican establishment has by the tail. They did not want him to win the primary again, they all hate him, and are just trying to get whatever judicial appointments and erosion of regulations they can out of him. Anyone who thinks Trump is a puppet is absolutely blind to American politics. He is an absolute wildcard that everyone is trying to react to, a whirlwind that folks hope they can push in the direction they want to destroy the things they want, but they are equally aware they can fall out of grace and be fired in two weeks like everyone in his last administration.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed.

Putin is furiously trying to figure out how to put polonium into a Big Mac

[–] davidagain 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is nonsense. Putin and Trump are allies.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not if getting him out of the way means a less idiotic henchman.

[–] davidagain 6 points 2 months ago

Trump supports Putin because he's idiotic. A less stupid and chaotic leader would be able to tell the difference between someone who gives them a compliment and someone who is a friend to the USA.