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[–] givesomefucks 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only way to move the country left is to do whatever you can to get the most left-leaning viable candidate elected. Over time this pushes the whole electorate left.

The last Dem president before neoliberalism was Jimmy Carter like 50 years ago

Would you say that the current strategy has paid off?

If not, how many more decades before we start thinking the people running the party are at best idiots who shouldn't be running a lemonade stand?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you, what we've been doing hasn't worked. Allowing Reagan and Bush and Bush and Trump to get elected hasn't helped anyone. You could argue Nader got GWB elected but cheating and the Supreme Court were a big part of that too. How different would our current politics be if we had a term or two of Gore instead of Bush? Hard to say. Maybe primary voters wouldn't have felt like they needed to pick a "safe" neolib over a demsoc in 2016 if they could believe he'd be viable.

[–] givesomefucks 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe primary voters wouldn’t have felt like they needed to pick a “safe” neolib over a demsoc in 2016 if they could believe he’d be viable.

You think primary voters had a say in 2016 still?

Clinton's primary campaign was literally running the DNC during that primary, it's not some secret and it was 8 years ago...

You really never heard?

I can find a link if you need to, it was very well documented.

Edit:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

Went ahead and linked it, because the people who pulled that shit are still the ones running DNC and Kamala's campaign. Shits not going to get better as long as people like this run the party.