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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is just not true voting third party or not voting means you are voting third party or not voting. This reasoning is senseless so if I vote Lu Cruz I'm helping Trump, Harris, Stein, etc.. all win no I'm not. No reason to vote for a candidate who will run fascistic policies which Trump and Harris both will. Electoralism is a dead end in broken system built to maintain the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Abstentionism isn't praxis. It's a losing strategy given the current state of politics; even a cursory examination reveals this to be true.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If your politics incorporates electoralism you have already failed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Empty words, backed up by nothing.

[–] pyre 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

you're only kidding yourself. the election doesn't give you points for process. it only gives you outcomes. and as things are right now in the US, there are two. you either contribute to outcome 1 or outcome 2. there is no other kind of action.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you explain why a vote for 3rd party is a vote for Trump, and not a vote for Harris? What makes it FOR Trump, and AGAINST Harris? Why isn't it for Harris and against Trump?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can, it's because you're talking to a Harris supporter. If you were talking to a trump supporter it would be a vote for Harris. They both say it about each other and it's pretty funny.

[–] pyre 0 points 2 months ago

sure buddy, that's why republicans suppress the vote all the time... to help harris.

[–] pyre 0 points 2 months ago

you asked me this twice for some reason, but here you go: a third party vote is pointless in the US. has the same effect as not voting. and not voting means lower turnout, which has always benefitted the republican party.

that's why they suppress voters, or even plant third party candidates as they did with RFK. of course that turned out to hurt them because RFK being an absolutely insane person for some reason started cutting into the republican votes more than democrats. so they cut a deal and he fucked off of the race.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 3 points 2 months ago

This is all true, except in a bubble where you use first past the post voting.

You're talking about sane elections. Americans live in a edge case:

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo