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[–] aeronmelon 196 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think the facts match the claim, but I completely agree with the sentiment.

For years, the ‘legit’ consumer has had to deal with ad interruptions and bad UI and service disruptions and having media removed from their library. Something that pirates don’t even have to think about. The music revolution that Jobs and Apple created with iTunes, which allowed people to just buy music and just own it and just use it however they want (no DRM) with an ease that made piracy look difficult and seem too risky to bother, never came for TV or movies or books or any other media category.

And now the streaming revolution has all but undone that progress as well. You don’t own anything, a company decides when you have or lose access to something, and even if you pay money for access you are still advertised to and your data is still sold off.

[–] Valmond 72 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I remember iTunes only letting you change computer like 2-3 times max before the drm would make mysic not work any more, but maybe it was no-drm in the beginning.

I had a chinese 1GB shuffle though so IDK if that's correct.

The chinese shuffle also doubled up as a usb key (very useful back then) and also didn't need iTunes to function smh.

[–] 9point6 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah IIRC you're right, though I remember you could contact apple and reset it.

It was called FairPlay DRM and they only really got rid of it around a decade after iTunes launched. I'm not 100% but I think I had to pay to upgrade my already paid-for library to DRM free too

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

It may have originally had DRM but it doesn’t now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But then later for like $10 I could take all my pirate music, legitimize it, and download a copy from iTunes if theirs was better quality. That was nice.

Edit: iTunes Match

[–] ripcord 9 points 2 months ago

That didn't last very long.

[–] krashmo 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah this guy is on some Apple fanboy shit if he thinks iTunes was drm free. Their shitty design for iTunes and decision to force you to use it despite it making the experience of listening to music much worse is the primary reason an ipod is the only Apple device I've ever owned. Freedom of choice and Apple have never mixed. That's such a weird angle to take when describing them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] krashmo 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they only forced everyone into their ecosystem for seven years and once they cornered their market they gave back the illusion of choice? That's cool I guess but that's explicitly the opposite of what I mean when I say freedom of choice, open source, DRM free, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm not defending Apple. Just stating that at one time iTunes was DRM free.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

DRM apologist, like so many of the Steam fanboys. "No, it's good DRM, you see?"

[–] WoodScientist 8 points 2 months ago

Meanwhile, in a dark and forgotten corner of my PC, I STILL have several thousand MP3s I downloaded from Kazaa back in the day.