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As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more "leave it up to the states" bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

TBF, "Leave it up to the states" in the context of recreational use is appropriate here. Extending that concept would necessarily include having extremely limited federal regulation, if any at all.

Medical use, in my opinion, should be federally protected, such that you can acquire medical use cannabis for a uniform set of medical purposes in all states.

[–] FlyingSquid 41 points 1 month ago (4 children)

100% disagree. First because it puts people in prison for spurious reasons and secondly because it's a plant. You can literally just grow it in your back yard. And it will grow really easily. It doesn't even take work.

You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum. You know what else? San Pedro cactus.

Even with shrooms, it's legal to own the spores when you're talking about psilocybin and Amanita Muscaria is 100% legal. It can literally kill you.

We don't even need to go into tobacco.

How does any of that make sense?

[–] MegaUltraChicken 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum.

Salvia is fucking wild. I do not recommend it unless you want to lose your mind for ~10 minutes or so. Like, from sober to "holy shit I'm on the wheel of fortune right now" in an instant.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I only did it once. Apart from tasting absolutely horrible, the trip wasn't even fun. I was laying on the ground and suddenly I was standing upright and was a cowboy leaning against the porch post of a ranch house. And then I was me again. What was the point?

[–] Bonesince1997 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To become a cowboy, very momentarily, pardner

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But I didn't want to be a cowboy. :(

[–] Bonesince1997 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Space cowboy? Spaced out cowboy?

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well... Some people call me the Space Cowboy...

Then again, some call me the gangster of love.

Some people call me Maurice and that's weird because it's just not my name.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While I complete and totally agree that it should be legalized, or at least federally rescheduled and completely decriminalized, I worry about what happens when it's federally regulated and taxed.

If it is federally legalized and taxed, it will likely become the domain of the ATF, who will ~~take over~~ continue kicking in doors and doing raids on anyone who is not a huge corporate grower. Marlboro has already trademarked Marlboro Greens and I'm sure every other tobacco giant has their branding ready.

Leaving regulation and taxation to each state is probably better long term, otherwise it's just going to be a corporate cash grab with established local growers and suppliers getting screwed.

Regardless, it should be completely legal to grow it in your back yard.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't say it made sense, especially in comparison to other legally produced intoxicants. If things made sense, we wouldn't have gestures widely.

But in the nonsensical paradigm, relegating the legal status of a recreational drug to the state level would be appropriate, and most certainly a step in the right direction. More to the point, I don't see it being possible for the federal government to command nationwide legality of recreational cannabis. This is why I made a separate statement about medical use.

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The federal government doesn't need to command that though. They can say that it is federally legal but still allow individual states or smaller governmental divisions to make it illegal. That's not how it should be, but that is how it works with alcohol, which is why there are dry counties and why Utah can regulate the amount of alcohol in its beer and wine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's kind of what I was saying. Recreational cannabis would be appropriately handled just like that, while preserving the right of all Americans to receive certain kinds of medical care (Roe) should be federally guaranteed, regardless of what state you live in.

[–] LittleBorat3 -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All these drugs you cite as negative examples have a really good safety profile. So no idea why you do that.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
  1. I didn't cite them as negative examples.
  2. Amanita muscaria can, as I said, kill you.
  3. Let's see tobacco's good safety profile.
[–] LittleBorat3 0 points 1 month ago

I agree on tobacco, maybe some DIY type of vaping is OK.

The rest is fine and if you consume any of these plants like fly agaric then you just have to know what you are doing.

Compared to alcohol anamita muscaria may have a better profile.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I mean I would appreciate it if it were federally legal. I live in a state where its legal but I'm employed by the federal government so I can't use it without putting my job at risk.