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Donald Trump on Sunday proposed a new policy that many critics said is equivalent to legalizing "The Purge."

Trump spoke at a rally in Pennsylvania, where he admitted that his attendees were "falling asleep" at one of his earlier rallies. Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign noted that, as Trump was still speaking at the swing-state event over the weekend, rallygoers placed directly behind the former president started to funnel out of the building.

One comment Trump made drew condemnation on social media, as well as numerous comparisons to The Purge, a film series based on a dystopian world in which the government makes all crimes legal for a 12-hour period.

As reported by Sebastian Smith, AFP Washington desk chief, "Trump in Erie, PA, says in US 'the police aren’t allowed to do their job.' To stop crime, you need 'one really violent day.' He says: 'One rough hour and I mean real rough, the word would get out and it would end immediately.'"


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[–] MegaUltraChicken 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can vote for whoever you want. That doesn't mean you don't get to face the very clear negative consequences for how you vote.

If you want to make the choice to not vote for the only candidate that can beat Trump, that's your call. But dont for a second think you're immune from criticism for not wanting to help beat him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's how the world works. I don't think people who don't vote in line with the Democratic Party care about not being in the same good graces to be considered one of them.

But pushing the false equivalence that somehow not voting for Trump is the same as directly voting for him is foolish and not a good tactic to swing them into voting with the party.

These are anti authoritarian people. As in literally don't like being told what to do. And you can't fix a negative with a negative. People need to feel inspired themselves to do the right things. Otherwise people are shockingly self destructive and will cut off their nose to spite the fact.

You are free to bully people that will say they voting a way you don't like too but don't think it will be productive is my point.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But pushing the false equivalence that somehow not voting for Trump is the same as directly voting for him is foolish and not a good tactic to swing them into voting with the party.

I did not say that, nor would I agree with that statement. 3rd party/non voters ARE supporting Trump. They are not providing as much support as someone who actively votes for him, but because of the way FPTP voting works, their actions absolutely benefit the GOP more than the Democratic Party.

These are anti authoritarian people. As in literally don't like being told what to do. And you can't fix a negative with a negative. People need to feel inspired themselves to do the right things. Otherwise people are shockingly self destructive and will cut off their nose to spite the fact.

I haven't told anyone what to do. I've explained the results of not voting/3rd party voting, that's all. If they don't like those results it sure sounds like they shouldn't do the dumb shit they're proposing.

You are free to bully people that will say they voting a way you don't like too but don't think it will be productive is my point.

"By doing X, you are causing Y" is not bullying. That's absurd.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alright last comment cause I got stuff to do. But you literally just said you don't agree that not voting for Trump is the same then said it's practically the same. In literally the next sentence.

Just because someone isn't voting for your desired candidate or your opposition doesn't mean they are supporting the one you have issue with. It literally doesn't work that way. They might not be helping you but somehow it only impacts one side? Cause there isn't a net positive for it anymore? That doesn't equal a positive for the other just literally a neutral "wasted" vote because sure it is.

If you can drive a car and not support climate change than this can be true as well. Attaching a moral equivalence to measure people against for a desired outcome is just you telling people they don't matter and are "other" for not being with you. You aren't say8ng what will happen cause if someone votes third party... They vote third party. That's it. You just don't like it so you push that it equates to something you see as worse.

Step on a crack and you will break your mother's back and you must hate your mother cause you never avoid the cracks.

Pushing fake math to appease your own mind is not exactly great. And you can lament them not helping but saying they are doing something you view as immoral because you view it a negative as a positive for the enemy is creating a wedge that doesn't need to exist.

[–] MegaUltraChicken -1 points 2 months ago

But you literally just said you don't agree that not voting for Trump is the same then said it's practically the same. In literally the next sentence.

3rd party/non voters ARE supporting Trump. They are not providing as much support as someone who actively votes for him, but because of the way FPTP voting works, their actions absolutely benefit the GOP more than the Democratic Party.

Not going to continue this if you insist on this bad faith bullshit. Have a nice day!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Blue MAGA out here going strong

[–] MegaUltraChicken 0 points 2 months ago

Weak ass bullshitters want to piss in everyone's Cheerios to make themselves feel better. Can't even engage without intentionally misstating me.