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[–] Kyrgizion 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Would be incredibly ironic if that thing melted down again and took MS's datacenters with it.

[–] Ibaudia 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It was only a partial meltdown, some cooling systems failed and it was successfully contained! Safety precautions designed to stop a full meltdown and release of radiation succeeded.

I know that's not really the point of your comment but I feel like this particular incident has a lot of misinfo and I wanted to help elucidate what happened.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. A properly run nuclear plant can be extremely safe.

[–] hydrospanner 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A properly run nuclear plant will also expose people living within a 50 mile radius of the plant to less radiation than if it were a coal fired plant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Can't have that!

[–] techt 10 points 2 months ago

This isn't true -- radioactive gases were leaked into the surrounding area. The containment vessel remained intact, and NRC concluded that no measurable harm was done, but there was definitely a release and that's why it was such a big deal. They evacuated children and pregnant women from the area in response.

https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML2010/ML20106F218.pdf

[–] fubbernuckin 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nuclear meltdowns are incredibly uncommon though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I also don't wish for that. We have enough fear mongering around nuclear power as it is.

[–] techt 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's not as uncommon as you might expect -- here is a list for the curious. And I don't mean to denegrate nuclear energy as a power source; it is vastly better than fossil fuels and safe when done correctly -- I have participated in the safe generation of nuclear power. But the ramifications of it being done incorrectly are severe to say the least, and everyone should be aware that we do commonly have issues with it, especially in aging facilities. We commonly extend plants decades beyond what their initial construction planned for.

Edited to say I just realized you said meltdowns, not radioactive leaks, which I do agree with. Sorry for confusion

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'd like to add that I think North America needs to invest in making Thorium reactors and/or Fast-Breeder systems portable: Nuclear trains sounds stupid until you realize Thorium exposed by a train crash or maintenance issue cannot emit lethal doses, and Fast Breeder fuel spheres are no more dangerous in a sunken ship at the bottom of the ocean than in the emergency cooling tank of a damaged ship or the reactor of a working one.