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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

NYPD brass said the alleged fare-beater had charged at the officers with a knife and made verbal threats against their lives; he was last said to be in critical condition, along with one of the bystanders

Yeah, that may have been how it started.

Body-worn camera footage, which Maddrey said he reviewed before the press conference, allegedly showed the man make a verbal threat to the officers. He told the cops, "I'm going to kill you if you don't stop following me," the chief said.

Definitely sounds like the police at fault, and the guy wasn't a walking time bomb or anything.

I get that the situation with the police in the US is cooked, but saying this was over a $2 fare isn't really being honest about the situation.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I mean, for discharging your firearm in an enclosed space with tons of people around? Yeah, I definitely would consider the police at fault. Should the guy with the knife have been persued once it was revealed he was armed? Sure, I can accept that. But what I do not accept is that the police seem to, despite the absurd modern toolkit at their disposal, only have two tools they actually use: their taser and their gun.

Why is it that seemingly anywhere else a knife-wielding assailant can be subdued without blood being drawn, but here it results in several people suffering life threatening injuries and one dead?

[–] PP_BOY_ 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's much cheaper (and better for psychological conditioning to the Policed States of America) to just hire the cheapest community college dropouts with a pant size bigger than their IQ than it is to attract, train, and maintain a respectable (read: "for the community") police force. If the US adopted similar requirements for their police as a country like Germany, I'd imagine we'd lose well over half of our force instantly, with most of the rest quitting soon after being asked to not shoot people at the first sign of noncompliance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think the argument being made here is that what you have described is egregious enough and also a fair take on what is alleged to have happened.

Unlike saying "a guy jumped a turnstile and police opened fire for $2" which now looks like a ragebait equivocation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I will concede that. The original comment was an oversimplification

[–] thesporkeffect 18 points 1 month ago

Except there is no evidence of a knife outside of the police story, bystanders say there was no knife and to my knowledge they still haven't found a knife

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"OH shit, Bobby shot some bystanders. We better say there was a reason we were shooting other than he was running away."

"He had a knife! That's the ticket!"

No knife found. Just typical police bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There's body camera footage, and multiple eyewitnesses, do you really think they're going to make up a knife?

[–] BigPotato 1 points 1 month ago

There's body cam footage of Tyreek handing the cops his license and the police turned around and said "he was refusing to identify himself."

So, yeah, I fucking do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you this naive about everything or do you just especially like sucking on the Blue?

Of course, they'll lie that they saw a knife even though there's a video. "I swear I thought I saw one and I had to act." Csuse you know the video isn't going to back them up.

Even if the guy had a knife, that doesn't justify shooting into a crowd. Oh shit, there is a violent criminal in NYC. We better nuke it to make sure the criminal doesn't get away.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is pretty tinfoil hat, I'm going to be honest with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not really. Cops have lied and planted items even when video records are available. They'll even shoot your dog for simply barking, then claim it lunged at them.

Maybe go watch bystander videos and not just watch what ever CNN or fox News or what ever Copaganda you like.