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Republican vice-presidential candidate Senator JD Vance continues to stoke outrage against foreign-born members of his own constituency, sharing video footage with his 1.9 million social media followers that he claimed showed African migrants in Dayton, Ohio “eating cats” — but instead appears to show nothing more than poultry cooking on an outdoor grill.

“Kamala Harris and her media apparatchiks should be ashamed of themselves,” Vance posted Saturday on X, the social network formerly known as Twitter. “Another ‘debunked’ story that turned out to have merit.”

Vance has claimed, falsely, in recent days that Haitians — who are not Africans — living in Springfield — a town of 58,000 which is not Dayton — were stealing, killing, and consuming their neighbors’ pets.

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[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Being super racist as a distraction is not a very good distraction. It also doesn't distract from the Swift endorsement at all.

[–] twistypencil 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody is talking about anything right now except the memes around cats and dogs. You and I, we agree it's racist, but independents may buy this hook without thinking it's racist. We agree that everything coming out of his mouth is lies and garbage, but independents are much more neutral and are willing to give him, the former president, the benefit of the doubt. They probably are thinking, wow, things have gotten bad in Springfield, instead of haha what a crazy old man who lost the debate. They aren't thinking about swift because this cat thing has completely flooded the zone. This is what Trump did all for years

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That "may" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

They "may" see it as the extremely racist thing that is so racist that even Republicans are saying "stop with the racism."

[–] twistypencil 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or they may like the little tickle of racism,or any number of other explanations... The point is we are in a bubble and have no freaking idea what they actually think, so plausible statements aren't that heavy of a lift. They may do as you say as well, but your may is no lighter of a lift

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then why are you arguing that it's a distraction?

[–] twistypencil 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Either it's definitely a distraction or we have no idea what they actually think. You can't have it both ways.

[–] twistypencil 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So we agree that we have no idea. If so, then I can have my theory, and you can have yours, and neither of us knows which is right, and then you can stop trying to assert mine is wrong and I will just put my theory out there and you can put yours out there.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, now it's just a theory that it was a distraction. You did not make that clear. In fact, you stated it as if it were fact many times.

Also, my "theory" is that they are being very racist. Which I have stated multiple times. Are you saying I'm wrong and they're not being racist?

[–] twistypencil 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm more interested in pointing out that your argumentation is not constructive, when it could be...and as a result I'm not interested in spending the time responding to such argumentatio, you may be right, but you sure don't make me want to listen and consider your view point objectively when it's wrapped the way you are doing it.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funny, you've spent a whole lot if time on it so far.

[–] twistypencil 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Not really, but thanks for thinking of me

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes really. We've literally been talking in this thread on this subject for days. This was posted four days ago. And you're still talking to me. Seems like you have plenty of time to me. And it's weird that you would lie about something that is such an obvious lie.

[–] twistypencil 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My replies take seconds, not sure who is weird here

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Your words:

I’m not interested in spending the time responding to such argumentatio

You keep responding. "Seconds" = spending the time.

It was a silly lie. Just like the silly lie you made elsewhere in this thread that the media wasn't calling this out as racism. Then I showed you proof that it was and you never responded again.

Clearly you're not very good at lying, so maybe stop doing it.

[–] twistypencil 1 points 34 minutes ago