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Hey guys, it was brought up in a report that NSFW tags should be applied to posts depicting drug use. What do you guys think? I could see it either way and thought you guys might like to weigh in on it. I personally don't find it particularly offensive but my work environments have never been the type to react strongly to something like this popping up on screen (I think they might be more upset about being on Lemmy at all). Currently there is no rule, and I am fine with that, unless feedback indicates the community would rather play it safe and require the NSFW flag.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (3 children)

NSFW has typically been used for things that are visually disturbing, like gore and sexually explicit materials. Using it for ideas that aren't safe for work feels like it would devalue the tag.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 7 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What about a person injecting themselves? I don't think anyone is necessarily complaining about smoking, but personally I don't exactly want to be seeing pictures of people injecting themselves or others, others especially, without any potential warning.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

You’re not going to get fired for looking, at work, at a picture of a person injecting themselves.

That is the basis of the NSFW tag

[–] SchmidtGenetics 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Oisteink 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

So you also have an issue with people breast feeding in public?

The human body is not something to be ashamed of, the only reason why you think injections are bad is because of war on drugs, people inject themselves or get injections with legal stuff all the time. Vaccines…?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how you got here from there, but that's a pretty weird take.

Many people, perhaps even a majority, are grossed out by needles, in a similar way to blood or other physical injuries. I think warning someone about that is only fair.

NSFW should be used to warn against things that are visually disturbing, not ideas or concepts.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And people don’t have trauma related to drinking?

Do we need to nsfw spiders? What about other phobias…?

What you find non-disturbing other people will. That’s a very ignorant take.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have any trauma related to needles, and I've had plenty of injections and blood tests over the years. I still find needles gross, like I would any other wound, and based on what's happening in the thread, I'd say that's a pretty common belief.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes and I’m pointing out that other people have other fears, which you’re ignoring.

Quite the hypocrite eh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mentioned people having a fear of dogs previously. Do you think a dog actively biting someone should be NSFW?

[–] SchmidtGenetics -5 points 3 months ago

Do you not think a dog bite victim might not respond to an image of a dog the same way you respond to needles? You have a very ignorant view here.

[–] Oisteink -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Censor it! Most things can be unsafe for work. What if you are a formula one driver?? You should not be breastfeeding while driving a gazillion miles per 860 seconds

[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I’m sure most race tracks have breast feeding places actually. Lots of workplaces embrace it, sorry. It’s also legal in public… so…

[–] Oisteink 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes! This is all about being offended by breastfeeding! Everything is about breastfeeding!

[–] SchmidtGenetics -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, it’s about the human body, injections and breast feeding are both normal things, but for some strange reason a portion of people get their panties in a bunch when people need to do these natural everyday things.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most people who need insulin administer it very differently from people injecting heroin, for example. I am sorry for people that do need insulin injections, but I don't really want to see that without any warning on my frontpage.

Diabetics I have known that do require insulin injections also usually have a device that covers the needle similar to what an epipen looks like. The needle itself is not actually very visible, and the injection site is often clean and not swiss cheese.

Basically, I don't exactly want my frontpage to assault my eyes with heroin addicts posting pictures of themselves shooting up because they think its totally fine to post that since there is no rule requiring that to at least be NSFW tagged.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

An injections an injection. I’m sorry you think there’s a difference.

I don’t like seeing people drinking on my feed, that’s a drug too. But ones apparently acceptable and ones not? Its probably because of people who think for some reason that natural human functions are to be looked down on.

People draw arbitrary lines for everything, smoking a cigarette is fine, but a joint isn’t for those same people. You are apparently part of this hypocrisy group.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One involves poking a hole in someone's skin, which a lot of people get the heebie-jeebies about. NSFW should be used on things people find visually disturbing.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lots of public advertisements depict people getting vaccines.

Oh no, it’s a needle!

People find spiders disturbing, do we need to censor those? What about people with dog trauma? You are extremely ignorant if you don’t think people can’t be traumatized by anything. Needles aren’t scary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Needles aren’t scary.

That's a very privileged thing for you to say, I think. It's also a bit bizarre how much you've dug your heels in over this.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No it’s real life, people are scared by spiders. We can’t just stop posting them because a few people get the heebie jeebies.

Public advertisements show it, on the TV even!

You want accommodations for your fears, but scoff at others. You’re just a hypocrite, like I already explained.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I’m just wondering why you seem to have a specific issue with needles, but don’t seem to have an issue with pushing the same trauma if someone has a spider or other phobia?

I said everyone has a line, yours is needles, others is spiders. Do you want them to accommodate spiders and other phobias and traumas too?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've explicitly said I don't have a phobia of needles, my point was any injury should be flagged NSFW.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You said you find needles gross, what would you call that other than a phobia…?

And since when are needles an injury? Needles are first aid, and first aid is nsfw…? That’s the strangest take I’ve seen in this post yet, wow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you actually suggesting everything I find gross is a phobia? I also find vomit and dog slobber gross, are those also phobias?

And vaccines are first aid?

What?

[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So you would want dog slobber and vomit censored too? I asked a question, don’t dodge it. Those are even more natural bodily functions. Why are you so ashamed of the human body and its functions?

Of course vaccines/injections are first aid, a tetanus shot is one of the first things they give you if you get a laceration or stab from something potentially infectious. What about local freezing? Epi-pen…?!

[–] Live_your_lives 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think you are on the right train of thought for this. A real person injecting themselves probably should be considered a NSFW image but a cartoon/meme character shouldn't be.

Ideally we would have NSFW, NSFL, and something like NSFG (Not Safe For Grandma) tags.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah I don't think people have much of a problem with a cartoon or a meme, as long as it isnt a real photo of a real person (or AI generated/whatever, looks real).

Not sure about NSFG tag though, I think that umbrella is too large. Also, depends on the grandma.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That possibly counts as gore, regardless of whether the drugs are recreational or medicinal. However, there will be exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

I'd definitely count an injection taking place as gore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd count that as visually disturbing, in the same way an injury could be. I'd certainly wince at the sight of a needle being poked into someone.

[–] SchmidtGenetics 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And some people freak out with spiders, we can’t accommodate every single phobia out there.

Public advertisements depict people getting vaccines FFS LOL.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Maybe stick to Instagram

[–] aaaa 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The tag is for warning people browsing at work not to click... Using it to prevent someone from clicking on a post that would be unacceptable to read at the workplace is exactly what it's for

It's not like it's censorship, it's just a warning tag.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

It also hasn't been used literally for a very long time.

[–] bigmclargehuge 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I would hazard a guess that this was brough up in reference to a meme on this board showing a close up of someone snorting a line of white powder. I can completely understand why that might not be considered suitable for all places and audiences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Possibly, but a workplace where even a joke about drug use would be an employment issue would be pretty unusual.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Some people can’t drink at work, the double standards of people is hilarious.

Looking at pictures of beer or people drinking is no different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people can’t drink at work

I think you'll find that's most people actually.

[–] SchmidtGenetics -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lots of places have beer fridges, or let their employees hit the bar for lunch or wine and wine clients on the company dollar.

The hell you talking about?

You done stalking me yet?