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The required deposit came about because Trump failed to pay an $81,837 bill from a campaign event he held at the Tucson Convention Center in 2016.

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[–] MeekerThanBeaker 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Democratic Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders skipped a $45,000 bill in 2016."

That's surprising, if true. Were they out of money and already out of the race?

[–] anon6789 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From Tucson.com 08 OCT 2016

The city of Tucson finally has one answer to its demands that the Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders campaigns pay the roughly $125,000 the city says the two groups owe for police protection at March rallies at the Tucson Convention Center.

A lawyer representing Sanders rebuffed a formal demand by City Attorney Mike Rankin for $44,013, saying the campaign never asked for police protection and suggested it should bill the Secret Service .

“The U.S. Secret Service typically made arrangements for all security matters with regard to Senator Sanders during his presidential campaign,” wrote Brad Deutsch, a lawyer for Bernie 2016.

“Therefore, to the extent the Secret Service independently contacted the Tucson Police Department ... to assist in its security detail, the law enforcement organization should discuss cost-sharing matters directly with the Secret Service.”

[–] MeekerThanBeaker 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] anon6789 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Certainly! It was a fun mini-mystery to solve.

There was a bunch of old articles talking about how Trump and Bernie owed the cops money, Trump owing considerably more due to a bigger crowd. Once I found out who the 45k was owed to, that made a quick job of getting the reason why.

It must have been another article than the one I shared that said all the money was for the cops because the convention center required a credit card for the deposit, so they could bill the candidates.

76 cops for 7,000 people seems excessive to me though for a Bernie rally.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's $592 per cop, which sounds about right for 4 hours and $150/hr overtime pay. Yes, that's what cops get paid in a lot of places.

[–] anon6789 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I meant more that sounds like a high number of police for a Bernie rally. I didn't think they required so much reigning in.

Some googling and skimming a Seattle city guide to event policing tells me 1-2 police per 1000 attendees is normal, and the rate you worked out sounds about right also.

It's a huge document, over 100 pages, but just skimming it was quite enlightening.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I meant more that sounds like a high number of police for a Bernie rally.

I agree that it's a large number of cops for a Bernie rally (although it's the right amount if their real job was intimidating Bernie liberals rather than providing actual security). I was just pointing out how much OT money cops make for that sort of gig.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...four police officers could handle a bernie rally; the other seventy-two were probably to manage the fascists trolling for trouble outside...

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 2 points 1 week ago

Uh, the other seventy-two were the fascists trolling for trouble outside ...