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Supporters of Israel's actions in Gaza - why do you think the Geneva convention should not apply? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by frazw to c/asklemmy

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The Geneva convention was established to minimise atrocities in conflicts. Israeli settlements in Gaza are illegal and violate the Geneva convention. Legality of Israeli settlements Article 51 of the Geneva convention prohibits indiscriminate attacks on civilian population yet Israel attacked hospitals with children inside. Whether you agree or not that Hamas were present, children cannot be viewed as combatants.so when no care was taken to protect them, does this not constitute a violation? According to save the children, 1 in 50 children in Gaza had been killed or injured. This is a very high proportion and does not show care being taken to prevent such casualties and therefore constitutes a violation.

So my question is simply, do supporters of Israel no longer support our believe in the Geneva convention, did you never, or how do you reconcile Israeli breaches of the Geneva convention? For balance I should add "do you not believe such violations are occurring and if so how did you come to this position?"

Answers other than only "they have the right to go after Hamas " please. The issue is how they are going after Hamas, not whether they should or not.

EDIT: Title changed to remove ambiguity about supporting Israel vs supporting their actions

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Some kind of a supporter here, I guess. Or let's say that I'm so much anti-Hamas that it's logical to be a bit anti-Palestine and pro-Israel.

Legality of Israeli settlements

Some of those settlements are not legal and israelis should leave those areas.

Article 51 of the Geneva convention prohibits indiscriminate attacks on civilian population yet Israel attacked hospitals with children inside.

It's questionable if this applies when the other side violates other Geneva conventions by using the hospitals for military activity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really questionable - hospitals explicitly lose their protection if they are used for military activity.

[–] MotoAsh 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They explicitly lose their protection if used for offensive military activity.

If soldiers are being treated in a hospital, it very much does NOT become a valid target. If soldiers are merely hiding in a hospital, it explicitly does NOT become a valid target.

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