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Aeroplane passengers should be restricted to two drinks at airports, Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has said.

Mr O'Leary said introducing alcohol limits at airports would help tackle a rise in disorder on flights.

Violent outbursts are occurring weekly due to alcohol, he said, especially when it is mixed with other substances.

"We don't want to begrudge people having a drink," he told the Daily Telegraph.

"But we don't allow people to drink-drive, yet we keep putting them up in aircraft at 33,000ft."

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Bit dismayed people in comments are focused on Ryanair or air travel in general.

It's never appropriate to be drunk and disorderly in public, especially if you are being a problem for staff. Doesn't matter if you are frustrated, or delayed.

[–] BassTurd 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Agree, but it's not on Ryanair to police that and should be at the discretion of the bar like it is everywhere else. If a bar overserves someone, fine them. If someone is unruly boarding or on a plane, either prevent them from boarding or ban them going forward and make the punishment hurt. There are plenty of people capable of drinking a handful of alcoholic beverages and functioning in public.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

The problem is that generally people who have several drinks lose their common sense, and you can't determine who will drink more and who will stop.

My father was an airline pilot, and often recounted stories of passengers who would become unruly and create safety concerns. He often used the expression "There are no road shoulders in the sky", meaning that if there are problems you can't simply pull over.

Also, most everybody who is drinking at an airport bar is boarding a flight, so if the drinker is drinking too much, they are going to bring the consequences of that over drinking on board.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Totally. I just don't take any issue at all with a company calling out they wish there were less/no drunk folks on their flying metal tubes.

Unfortunately idiots ruin it for the rest of us, who can happily sit in their own seat with a buzz on

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A crime has happened somewhere. Quick, call the CEO of an exploitative cost cutting company!

CEOs to the rescue again. Our heroes.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed that being drunk and disorderly in public is wrong but airports are a powder keg that probably pushes people to drink more than normal considering passengers are treated like cattle in a highly restricted environment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I hear you. I've felt it.

Not trying to argue, but I can't accept shredding personal responsibility for ingesting chemicals. People are always responsible for what they consciously and freely put in their body, and are especially still responsible for how they act afterwards. I think it's fair to say that no matter how bad, horrifically bad, an airport experience gets, there's never justification to get rude or belligerent with folks just trying to do their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is it the alcohol that causes people to be disorderly or all the BS that airlines throw at them. It's equally as inappropriate to constantly prod people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Drunk or not, it is never appropriate to harass staff or interfere with a flight

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's also never appropriate to cancel flights then refuse to reimburse passengers for hotel stays due to said cancelation, lose luggage and refuse to refund or reimburses for the lost luggage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting two things can't be true?

I'm sorry dude but it's entirely childish behavior (not you-you, the hypothetical behavior) to think that getting a run around / bad customer service permits you to get drunk and harass a flight attendant while they do their job. They didn't fail to reimburse you, they clocked in and are trying to work their shift. How the fuck is it even in discussion that it's ok to be rude/intimidating to someone in the working class?

Further, the other passengers also didn't cause your booking woes, or lost luggage. Why should they be intimidated or disturbed by drunk and disorderly behavior?

Again I'm not saying "you" do this, I'm referring to a hypothetical drunken customer, even one who has suffered all of the bad things you mentioned.

Having an absolute shit day doesn't permit getting drunk and impacting others

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Are you suggesting two things can’t be true?

Nope, it's why I used words like also and equally inappropriate.

Stopping everyone from having a few drinks so that the customers you shit on the most will obediently swallow all the shit you can shove down their throats is fixing a symptom not the cause.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's neither lol, it's the people themselves.

Blame choosing to drink alcohol or fly a low cost carrier, but like...really it's you. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Screwing with 100s of people and then being surprised when one lashed out is impressively naive.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every bartender in the U.S. can be fined/punished for over serving. This goes for the airports as well, and the flight attendants. The airlines have the right to turn away passengers who are to drunk as well. Depending on location drunk/disorderly in public can be prosecuted by the police who are stationed in the airports/terminals.

If all of those things are failing, maybe they should be addressing the bartenders/flight attendants who are already legally responsible. Turn them away at gate if you must. Making stupid public statements will never look good for your image when your own company is part of the process that is failing won't do you any good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reminder that he could be taking about his own business too, with an onboard 2 drink max.

Though I agree he's taking about the airport too.

He's clearly highlighting that the system isn't working. Anyone who flies regularly can see evidence of that.

Don't get me wrong, I like to drink, and even be drunk on occasion. But being so on group transit is not cool, and being so plus being aggressive towards staff or other travelers should come with a trip to the no fly list. I can understand why folks in the industry would want change.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 1 points 2 months ago

I imagine being aggressive towards anyone would get you in trouble, maybe it's just a U.S. thing, but getting in trouble on a plane is one of the last places Id want it. Even just the airport, it's a confined area with minimal exits and lots of security/armed police/k9 units..

I can't imagine if they land a plane somewhere because of you that you won't hear the end of it. Maybe I'm just paranoid and it's a lot more lax than I feel it is when I am there.