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  • Kamala Harris' campaign is demanding that microphones stay unmuted at the next debate.
  • It's a break from Joe Biden, who insisted on microphone muting at the June 27 debate.
  • It indicates the vice president thinks outbursts from Trump would end up benefiting her.
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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 48 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It doesn’t matter what he says, we’ve heard it all before. He’s a one-trick pony.

The problem is that he’s going to gish gallop and lead the conversation by trying to get Harris to be the one trying to disprove all his bullshit. It’s a major MO in republican discussion to spew bullshit in bad faith that wastes the time of the opponent who is attempting to have an actual conversation and tries to reasonably refute the bullshit. The bullshit is reductionist, sensationalist, and full of feels, so it gets attention vs. the actual facts which tend to be the exact opposite. Trump will absolutely talk all over her, interrupt, and just be an asshole.

So trump’s mic should absolutely be shut off. He wastes time and opportunity for Harris to state her platform.

Plus, I think being unable to be heard really pisses him off. So I’m all for that, too.

[–] Red_October 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that muting his mic when it's not his turn to talk doesn't keep him from spewing rampant bullshit when it IS his time to talk.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Of course!

But it keeps him from spewing rampant bullshit over his opponent.

Lesser of two evils? He’s gonna be a tool no matter what, just minimize his opportunity to do so.

[–] vxx 4 points 3 months ago

She can interrupt him as well when he's lying. Biden just had to listen.

It benefits the smarter and more coherent person when mics are unmuted, if played correctly.

[–] Red_October 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The question becomes whether or not that interrupting bullshit stream actually harms him more than it helps.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 1 points 3 months ago

Ok. I already know I dislike trump and will not be voting for him. It think most people at this point, if they aren’t absolute troglodytes living under a rock, already know trump’s behavior. If it hasn’t already cemented his idiocy in their minds, I don’t think one more minute on TV will change that.

One of the only pieces of political TV I watch is the debate because I’d like to hear what their points are. I rarely make it all the way through a debate because I’m usually disgusted by both participants’ behavior and performance.

I absolutely despise the childish talking-over each other, over-running of alotted time, and failure to answer questions.

Forcing the silence of participants alleviates the talking over, overrunning, and at least allows the participants time to form an answer - if they don’t waste time bickering.

[–] Dkarma 14 points 3 months ago

Biden handled that well "everything he just said is a lie"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It clearly isn't her plan to refute his lies and lend credence to the ridiculous things he says. It's probably to say "what? That doesn't even make sense .... Lol he's still talking.... Haha he just keeps ranting and those aren't even words." Or something. I obviously don't know her exact plan but she understands that standing there trying to fact check him won't work.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 3 months ago

That would actually be great.