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[–] [email protected] 104 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The only polls that matter are ones where physical votes are cast. Vote!

[–] AbouBenAdhem 38 points 4 months ago (3 children)

For the election itself, yes. But we’re likely to have major issues after the election if most of Trump’s supporters don’t believe he lost, and polls like this are critical for getting them to accept that.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're not gonna accept it regardless. We wouldn't be in this position if MAGA cared for facts.

[–] AbouBenAdhem 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There are some who won’t accept it regardless, and some who will be swayed by what they think everyone else is thinking.

Edit: Also, a lot of the decisions will be made by Republican officeholders who may be happy to play along with the die-hard MAGA faction as long as it doesn’t threaten their own re-election chances, but could get cold feet if Harris polls too high in their own states.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That's an important observation. A big part of the "authoritarian follower" personality is a desire to be "normal", to be like everyone else. If they think everyone just accepts Harris won they may not be happy about it but they'll be more likely to accept it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I was hanging out with a group of conservative dudes last night. They are convinced that Trump is going to win and the Democrats are going to refuse to certify the election, which will result in a civil war.

I really hope that Harris beats his ass so badly that her victory is undeniable. Even then, I'm worried they'll see that as further proof that the election was stolen. Having media bubbles is incredibly dangerous to our democracy.

[–] kofe 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I just don't understand the projection. Trump is the one that didn't ensure peaceful transition. The first in history. Trump is the one that staged an attempted coup.

I went on a deep dive researching delusions, though, and I suppose calling people out in the throes of one isn't usually fruitful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just don't understand the projection.

I don't get it either, but it is what the P stands for in GOP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I thought the P stood for "Potty-mouth".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] kofe 1 points 4 months ago

Ooo thank you, I'll edit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They'll believe anything that's convenient for them to believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Maybe not. The GOP is losing enthusiasm. They'll still vote for Trump, but it takes more than that to be willing to do violence in the man's name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Are there really people that think "She's doing so well on the polls! I guess I don't need to vote"? I feel like if you're paying any attention to polls, you're the kind of person who's already going to vote. The kind of people you need to reach are ones that don't care about politics.