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NASA decides to keep 2 astronauts in space until February, nixes return on troubled Boeing capsule (apnews.com)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Welp, that's that. I wonder how this will affect future flights. Will NASA require an extra test flight prior to Crew-1? If so, Boeing will be one rocket short, as all of the Atlas Vs have already been allocated.

[–] Diplomjodler3 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No way Starliner flies again. This whole thing has been a gigantic fiasco from day one. I hope they pull the plug and spend the money on programs with a future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

boeing's spending the money not nasa, it's a fixed price contract

[–] trolololol 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When has that ever happened?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

only for starliner as far as i know, every other boeing thing is cost plus

[–] trolololol 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

finally NASA making decent financial decisions

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

they really dodged the bullet with this one

[–] trolololol 1 points 3 months ago

Yep, it only took 50 years of lessons with the same contractors to learn it am I right?

[–] Bangs42 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Starliner and Crew Dragon both, if we're talking manned space capsules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

crew dragon isn't Boeing is it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No, but it is fixed-price, which I think is what @[email protected] was getting at.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I disagree, they have so much time and money investment into starliner, it has to fly again. They can't throw out 15 years of development.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sunk cost fallacy. Fuck Boeing, why should the government keep funding this?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's not a usual cost-plus contract, to my knowledge, the government hasn't funded it beyond the initial half billion. Boeing is taking a bath on this capsule development, needs the crew contracts to recoup, and that's why I don't believe they will abandon it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This whole thing makes me feel so sad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I don't know. Part of me feels a bit of glee that Boeing is having to foot the bill for their own incompetence.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

They definitely should throw away 15 years worth of development if they are unable to deliver. Any more money spent would be wasted

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

15 years of development, and they didn't manage to build rubber seals that seal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

They're more than $1.5 billion in hole on this contract, but they must be doing some math on how many future contracts they might miss out on if they back out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Don't throw good money after bad (or the sunk-cost fallacy).

Though it's not like all that development is lost. They retain all they've learned and developed. Just costs a bit to store the data.