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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

All the people who said I was helping the orange man by asking for a better candidate can tell me they’re sorry. Yeah right. They’re the same ones telling us to shut up about Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I had no confidence that the Democrats could coalesce around another candidate, in time for the convention.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

I'm honestly flabbergasted

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know if I ever talked to YOU about it, but I definitely said a few times that it was too risky to change candidates, even though Biden was polling terribly. I'm very happy to eat my hat now!

[–] pujamas 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, in the same boat. I thought they needed to stick with him because of advantage incumbents have, and I didn't think we had time to promote a new candidate. Very happy to be wrong about that! I don't care about the change, I'm just happy to go with whoever has the best chance at winning

[–] brygphilomena 14 points 3 weeks ago

I genuinely didn't think someone else was positioned to take on the campaigning. I'm glad I was wrong.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yo I don't think we spoke but I was someone saying Biden would be the nominee. I even said things like it's unlikely or impossible there will be another D candidate.

I acknowledge I was wrong on that part. I also acknowledge as the season wore on Biden clearly displayed himself as not fit to run, and a replacement was a good idea.

In general I focused and continue to focus on those who say "stay home or vote 3rd party" as that is an issue in the face of project 2025 and other obvious trump stuff.

So my argument wasn't "omg vote for grandpa Biden he's the best" it was "let's keep trump out of the Whitehouse, a Democratic candidate is the only option, and Biden is currently the likely nominee."

Also, keep talking about Gaza, it's important.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone is happy to be wrong. This isn't the flex you think it is lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a flex. It's a statement about how much is still lacking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe you should read your comment again cuz it's definitely not a "statement about how much is still lacking".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

"We need a better candidate" is a different cry altogether.

I still feel they're taking a huge risk and they could still fail miserably like every other time before, but we have no comparative data for a differential anyway.

I still worry they made the wrong choice but they did so the best way possible, and I hope it works out for them. I still have my fears but I sure hope they're just that.

[–] EnderWiggin -5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Feels a wee bit early for the "I told you so" stuff. She's currently losing in the betting odds.

Edit: it's good to be wrong

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] EnderWiggin 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting, I've heard the opposite in terms of betting odds v. traditional polling. Good to know it changed though as Trump was like +5 as recently as like 2 days ago. Thanks for posting.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

2 days ago was probably before the DNC opened, ever day has seemingly been throwing that shit from Back to the Future 3 in the hypetrains engine.

[–] EnderWiggin 1 points 3 weeks ago

Music to my ears. Thank you for lifting my spirits. We just all gotta vote.