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A Milwaukee woman has been jailed for 11 years for killing the man that prosecutors said had sex trafficked her as a teenager. 

The sentence, issued on Monday, ends a six-year legal battle for Chrystul Kizer, now 24, who had argued she should be immune from prosecution. 

Kizer was charged with reckless homicide for shooting Randall Volar, 34, in 2018 when she was 17. She accepted a plea deal earlier this year to avoid a life sentence.

Volar had been filming his sexual abuse of Kizer for more than a year before he was killed.

Kizer said she met Volar when she was 16, and that the man sexually assaulted her while giving her cash and gifts. She said he also made money by selling her to other men for sex.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

My mother was abused by her father. No one helped. Her own siblings, also abused, blamed her when she spoke out about it. She was then abused by my father. When the police came round after physical violence, they laughed at her.

I find myself not really expecting moral behaviour from humans as a group. That women must endure worse punishment for killing their abusers than their abusers would have received is unpleasant.

[–] Chocrates 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm just a flyby idiot on Lemmy, but I am blown away that she was charged. The one article I read didn't go into a ton of details on th actual shooting, but she was raped and trafficked and shot her abuser. Did the DA pursue it because she is black?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She traveled from Milwaukee to Kenosha of her own volition with intent to kill, shot him twice, burned his house down, and stole a car.

Going to someone's place uninvited with intent to kill that person is premeditated murder. Burning down a house is extremely reckless, others could've been easily caught up or injured in this rampage. Not to mention that the house fire likely destroyed a lot of potential evidence. Other victims might have more difficulty finding their own justice as a result, or worse if he had any accomplices their collaboration could be harder to prove.

Cool motive. Very understandable motive even. Still murder. Vigilante justice is no justice.

[–] Chocrates 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's what I was afraid of. Shooting him when she was about to be raped is different to a prosecutor than planning to kill her rapist and then making it happen.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Im just some random dude on the internet, but if i was raped and sex trafficked I personally wouldn't feel safe until the rapist was dead. Our legal system is fucking garbage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

...I personally wouldn't feel safe until the rapist was dead.

If humans had a justice system which prioritised protecting people from sex traffickers and rapists, that would be great. Put them in prison for a long time.

[–] AA5B 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, killing someone in self defense is different from going back later with intent to kill them. That’s always been true

[–] briercreek -5 points 4 weeks ago

Do people think we have to let murderers go free because of their skin color? It sounds like 1950 again.

[–] NegativeInf 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Every time I hear about something like this, I find myself thinking that climate change is a good thing. And then I fantasize about a head on gamma ray burst or a lovely coronal mass ejection stripping away the atmosphere.

Life was a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Humans aren't so great. But they also seem to be self-limiting, so it all evens out.

As you imply, humans have an overall negative impact on the human world that they create for themselves and each other. I don't emotionally identify as a human because of that. I just exist, and watch it all happen without blaming myself.

[–] NegativeInf 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Doing nothing in the face of great evil is half the problem with human beings.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What was it mlk said about moderates?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

Letter from Birmingham Jail, by Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963

[–] thejoker954 -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But if you're the only one doing something against that great evil you're a nutter.

And if what you are doing to fight that evil is against the societal norm - then at best you are a nutter, at worst you are a dangerous threat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, the status quo can easily put pressure on people to not counter forces which harm humans. Meaning you end up with a human society that harms humans.

[–] AtomicTacoSauce -2 points 1 month ago

My fantasy is that mutually-assured destruction scenario plays out. Give us some good fireworks before our eyeballs are roasted into particles. Humans suck, and it ain't gonna get better.

[–] briercreek -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If a woman is the abuser does the man get to murder her?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Men do murder their female partners at a much higher rate already.

Research shows around 10% of college aged males self-report as having sexually assaulted women. This has been replicated in multiple countries: https://jimhopper.com/topics/sexual-assault-and-the-brain/repeat-rape-by-college-men/

Men, on average, serve two to six years for killing their female partners: https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/jan/12/intimate-partner-violence-gender-gap-cyntoia-brown

 

So, yes, men get to murder women. They get to rape women. They self-report having done so as if it's not that big a deal. They get to enjoy shorter sentences than 11 years, on average. I hope this answers your question.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I've just read a comment from a woman who was held captive and tortured by an ex:

"Male friends who know what happened tell me I didn't fight back hard enough. “Just say no.” I did. “You should have left.” I tried. “You need to put up more of a fight. Don’t let these men walk all over you.” He beat me to the point I was bleeding internally and gave me permanent brain damage.

They will never get it. Nothing we can ever say will make them understand how it feels.

Compassion is not something that many humans are good at, I guess.