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Brian Cox thinks cinema is “in a very bad way,” with the Marvel and DC Universes partly to blame.

The legendary actor of stage and screen – who most recently garnered critical acclaim for his award-winning role in HBO’s Succession – spoke at an Edinburgh International Film Festival panel on Saturday. When asked about the recent successes of globally popular TV shows, Cox cited the latest MCU installment Deadpool & Wolverine as a great example of cinematic “party time”.

“What’s happened is that television is doing what cinema used to do,” Cox told the audience of television’s originality. “I think cinema is in a very bad way. I think it’s lost its place because of, partly, the grandiose element between Marvel, DC and all of that. And I think it’s beginning to implode, actually. You’re kind of losing the plot.”

He discussed Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman of Deadpool & Wolverine while referencing how films are “making a lot of money that’ll make everybody happy, but in terms of the work, it becomes diluted afterwards. You’re getting the same old… I mean, I’ve done those kind of [projects].”

Cox starred as William Stryker Jr. in X2: X-Men United (a military scientist who persuades Logan to become Wolverine), and admittedly said he “forgets” about the fact he “created” Wolverine. “Deadpool meets the guy… Wolverine, who I created, but I’ve forgotten. Actually,” he jokes, “When those films are on, there’s always a bit of me [as Stryker] and they never pay me any money.”

“So it’s just become a party time for certain actors to do this stuff,” Cox added. “When you know that Hugh Jackman can do a bit more, Ryan Reynolds… but it’s because they go down that road and it’s box office. They make a lot of money. You can’t knock it.”

Television is pulling ahead, he continued, with incredible shows like Jesse Armstrong’s Succession and Netflix’s Ripley, starring Andrew Scott. “There’s so many [shows] and you’ve got the honor of telling the story over a period of time.” The actor said movies of his childhood such as On the Waterfront are what made him want to “be the actor I’ve become,” but it’s partially eradicated.

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[–] kemsat 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lmao, yeah we should be making movies that are enjoyed by the few, and ignored by the masses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, because not all movies need to have a huge bloated budget. Think of it as if the games industry only made AAA games, that would be horrible

[–] kemsat 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hear you, and that’s fair, but I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. It’s much easier to make a great indie game, but much harder to make a great indie movie. You gotta deal with sets, locations, costumes, cameras, lights, etc., with a movie. For a game, you basically just need one computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I disagree, I think it's much easier to make an indie movie than an indie game, you can film it on a phone and have one set and only have a few actors and still make a good movie in months. Indie games take years to make, specially for one developer

[–] kemsat 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I take back what I said, I remember hearing that Everything Everywhere All At Once was really cheap to make.

[–] johannesvanderwhales 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] kemsat 1 points 3 months ago

How do those make money? Like, we’re probably not gonna see another Captain Marvel movie because of the last one’s performance. Yet, we should make more movies that won’t make money because…?

But yeah, I don’t disagree, I just think it’s funny when these old venerated actors bring this topic up of how the film industry is going the wrong way; go become an executive then! The studios have to put out like 10 profitable movies to pay for one art-house film that will barely make their budget back, if at all.