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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean 22%?

Rump got 74 million votes in 2020, which is 22% of the US total population of 330M.

[–] dogsnest 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean of people who were arsed to vote!

And there's ZERO reason to argue that it's not reflective of the general population.

And it's ONE THIRD of the eligible voters (c.250M?). As are the Dems. One third doesn't vote!

Why the pedantry?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Because pretty much all Republicans vote. 22% represents their entire voting base.

[–] FuglyDuck 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because there’s also no reason to believe that the 40% who didn’t vote support anyone over a specific candidate.

Most likely, they just don’t care and don’t support either party.

[–] JimmyMcGill 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They were more than happy to have a very reasonable chance of having Trump in the office by choosing not to vote.

Not as bad as voting for him but still not a great excuse.

There’s also no reason to believe that 100% of those people would not vote for Trump. What is most likely is that the proposition would be roughly similar, maybe a bit lower

[–] FuglyDuck -1 points 3 months ago

There’s also no reason to believe that 100% of those people would not vote for Trump. What is most likely is that the proposition would be roughly similar, maybe a bit lower

You have no basis for that belief.

That’s the point I’m trying to make clear: you don’t know why they didn’t vote.

What is clear is that they didn’t vote. Which you’re… basically arguing doesn’t suggest apathy.

In short we have no idea why they didn’t vote. Only that they didn’t vote; and that implies at least some apathy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why the pedantry?

You're misunderstanding my point. Don't accidentally overrepresent and legitimize the Fascist Right by assuming that because 47% of people who voted wanted Trump, that 47% of the entire US wanted Trump. In reality US voter turn out is consistently dogshit and the huge political right-wing hubbub is driven by <20% of the actual population, who also somehow claim there's some "silent majority" supporting them. (there's not; those who don't vote either don't care or are intentionally suppressed/disenfranchised by, you guess it, the same fascist right!)

They must be painted as the weird, fringe crazy pots that they are. There is no helping that camp.