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SpaceX’s Starship launches at the company’s Starbase facility near Boca Chica, Texas, have allegedly been contaminating local bodies of water with mercury for years. The news arrives in an exclusive CNBCreport on August 12, which cites internal documents and communications between local Texas regulators and the Environmental Protection Agency.

SpaceX’s fourth Starship test launch in June was its most successful so far—but the world’s largest and most powerful rocket ever built continues to wreak havoc on nearby Texas communities, wildlife, and ecosystems. But after repeated admonishments, reviews, and ignored requests, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) have had enough.

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[–] [email protected] 174 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I would be exactly 0% shocked to learn this was true.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd be shocked if Abbott didn't try to give them a Texas Medal of Freedom award for doing this.

[–] HoustonHenry 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And for removing water breaks for workers when it's really hot out

[–] meco03211 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or... I could see him mandating more water breaks... provided it comes from the test area. People in the biz refer to that as remediation.

[–] HoustonHenry 2 points 4 months ago

Ah yes, I forgot about that old fallback

[–] Plastic_Ramses 18 points 4 months ago

And with Chevron ruling they wont face any repercussions!

Isnt crony capitalism great!?!?!?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would you be more shocked to learn that it isn't true? It is possible that this entire story is based on two typos in the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality report.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted (although you’re username would certainly give the impression you’re just defending musk).

The information you linked to does indeed cast doubt on the validity of the report. Corrected information will be needed before concrete conclusions can be drawn.

I hate Musk as much as the next person, and definitely wouldn’t be surprised if he was dumping chemicals in the water. But that doesn’t mean we should let confirmation bias cloud our ability to think critically.

[–] Cenzorrll 3 points 4 months ago

I went through the report, and the raw data at the end shows the two samples coming back at "0.139" and "ND"

[–] M137 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your* username

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

although you’re username would certainly give the impression you’re just defending musk

I find it interesting that people automatically assume my username implies endorsement of the person.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It could be that they mod all the musk communities and are an elon stan but more than likely it's because they've plastered the same comment over 14 times with now llama taking over who is also an active user in the same communities making it seem like brigading. If the case was stated in a single comment it might be upvoted more than others, at this point they're just spamming anyone who comments regardless of the context.

I'm all for putting your truth out there, but it just seems like they're trying to drown out everyone with a "nuh uh, believe me" over letting the facts play out. It's not like this thread is gonna have any real impact on the company or perception at this point no matter what anyone says.

[–] llamacoffee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My dear friend, the report is factually false. I can't speak for others, but I personally find it to only be responsible to help dispel false news. And for what it's worth, Elon is an asshole in my view, but that is irrelevant in this context, wouldn't you agree?

As for the facts, you may check them yourself. Here is the actual application. Typo is on page 79, the actual figure is in the appendix on page 177.

https://www.tceq.texas.gov/downloads/permitting/wastewater/title-iv/tpdes/wq0005462000-spaceexplorationtechnologiescorp-starbaselaunchpadsite-cameron-tpdes-adminpackage.pdf

Maybe you're wondering why I am keen on sharing all this. I am a big fan of spaceflight, it's just something I like and find inspiring. False reports that lean heavily on "Elon Musk bad" make the spacefaring future I'm rooting for more difficult to achieve. Surely it's ok to correct misinformation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My dearest lover, I appreciate you reaching out to me in this way. I missed all the other links you've put up and so this copy/paste directly made for me has made my heart swell. I regret to inform you that you're behind in your news updates and the reporting is only getting worse for you at this time. I apologize for the inconvenience and will never give up being your shelter and rock in the stormy sea of life.

[–] llamacoffee 3 points 4 months ago

Instant upvote. Well played, my friend, well played.