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‘Two-tier’: UK treats far-right attacks less harshly than Islamist violence, says thinktank
(www.theguardian.com)
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Putting the Tories aside for a second, is it your logic that nobody is allowed to be concerned about immigration 🤔? Because "racist dog whistling" is a strong phrase to use to cover a very wide and complex topic.
i'm sure the far-right rioters are concerned mainly with the detailed cost-benefit analysis of how current and future immigration strategy could impact the uk's fiscal outlook, and not with anything else at all
My friend. I'm not talking about far right rioters. But thanks anyway 👍.
so you waded into a conversation about the rioters to ask an unrelated question?
cool thank you for the valuable discourse
pretending that there's a question posed by these riots about immigration is just pretending that that's the question far right rioters are asking, which is just an attempt to rehabilitate blatant racism in the eyes of an uninformed observer, and by doing it you're just being a useful idiot
You're assuming a strawman that doesn't exist and getting very angry about it. Not every question is an attack on your very being. Chill yourself, buddy.
My friend, this is how conversations evolve. That's why they are threaded on this platform. Why do you need to be so angry that I'm asking a question that isn't related? Why do you care so much? If you want to join the conversation that's cool. But you seem to want to shout it down. That's pretty sad, pal.
i'm not saying you're deliberately constructing the argument
i'm saying you're a useful idiot carrying water for the far right without realising it
OK 👌.
Immigration is benefiting the UK so no, there is no reason to be "concerned". I accept that there may be very specific situations for certain groups, but it is still benefiting the public as a whole.
Unless someone "concerned about immigration" is also concerned about too many white babies being born, they are a racist.
Oh I do agree immigration on the whole is a benefit to the UK, yes. Of course, I mean you only have to look around and see what immigrants are doing to help our public services for a start.
However I don't agree that having concerns equates to being a racist. That's a rather large leap that I don't think is fair. You should be allowed to question policies and express concerns without being shouted down as a racist. Of course, you don't have to be right in your concerns. And I'm sure a lot of these concerns are baseless. But shouldn't we be able to explain and discuss that with people without jumping to extremes?
big "i'm just asking questions" energy
this is just borderline sealioning
Mate what are you on about? Do you have something constructive to add? Or just internet memes?
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Is it though? Sky high rent, destroying the country side, the NHS is overwhelmed, the rise of the far right,, all are caused in part by over population (and high immigration is s causing over population. White people are below replacement rate)
I realize that the benefits of lower wages and a more abusable work force are attractive, but they simply don't outweigh the costs.
Nothing to do with immigration. But direct cation from the Tories, who spent the 80s arguing social housing was unfair competition on the private rental sector. Went out of their way to destroy that sector. Now no competition exists to limit housing costs. Our own voters for the last 50 years are responsible for housing costs.
More people working for the NHS, more people paying taxes. Vs Tories intentionally refusing to increase spending inline with inflation. While actually increasing the cost of staff by forcing most qualified nurses and doctors to work as more expensive contract staff.
It does not take much to see why Tory propaganda wants you to bereave that bullshit.
The rise of the far right is caused by the far right elements of the tory government selling crap excuses for their own actions. Over 50 years. But really upping the game for the last 14.
The lead up to the last election was so full of Tory blame slinging, it's fucking ridiculous. Labour may not be much better in their desperate attempt to appeal to the right. But the Tories have been playing this game since the 1920s, when immigration bullshit first launched against German immigrants in the press. Timed perfectly with the growth of socialism and unions, within the working class.
Neither of these have anything to do with immigration.
UK is not overpopulated.
You are the perfect example of a dog whistling racist.
But they have to do with overpopulation, and guess what immigration doesn't help?
Are you advocating to slow down birth rate of white babies?
That's called eugenics. So no, I'm not.