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[–] ccunning 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

“I think that President Trump gets along with world leaders,” Vance responded. “And there’s nothing wrong with him complimenting them as people, if it makes him more effective diplomatically.

So you’re saying there is something wrong with it?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Also, Trump indiscriminately worsened international relations for the US for years, if not decades. While he simped for every dictator he was made aware of, he simultaneously dismissed, insulted, or tried to needlessly strong arm its allies. I'd argue he was a worse diplomat for the country than GW, and that's a low fucking bar.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

As a European, way worse than GW. GW was bad, and there was a lot of shit going around with him trying to drag NATO into unjust wars of aggression, Trump basically made NATO seriously prepare for a future where the US is not a member.

This means a lot of things, from simple things like NATO might not buy the next American fighter jet that might tie them to an unstable country with military logistics, to more complicated and far-reaching ones like Europe not giving a flying fuck about US-China relationships and potentially being a neutral/independent party on that front.

If the US can't recover - and I'm not saying it can't, the 2016 Trump presidency might be referred to by historians as the point where the US jumped the shark on being the sole superpower on Earth. Wonder why tankies are shilling for Trump.

[–] grue 12 points 4 months ago

On the other hand, if his goal was to sabotage the United States on purpose, he did a magnificent fucking job of it.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt 1 points 4 months ago

Before Biden was elected, he wouldn't be able to pass any meaningful legislation in the first 2 years, because his primary focus would be to rebuild this country's reputation on the world stage... because of what the previous guy did.

Of course the guy I was talking to is a conspiracy shouting boot licking fox-news-parrot who complains endlessly that his guns will be taken away

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

World leaders love laughing at trump

https://media1.tenor.com/m/5DX_2cJwaTQAAAAd/nato-trump.gif