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[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is all the IOC requires. Why should they require anything else?

[–] Eatspancakes84 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s quite common to test for testosterone. For one because synthetic testosterone is on the doping list. That’s also why the IBA test is so suspicious. If her testosterone was at male levels, that should have been discovered way earlier with a doping test.

[–] mightyfoolish 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Again, the fake Russian test failed her for an unknown test but said the test WASN'T about testosterone. The gender thing has nothing to do with Russia.

  1. Russian official fails her for unknown reasons not repeated to testosterone.
  2. Transphobes call her a male for unknown reasons.
  3. Imane is tested for doping as frequently as other competitors.
[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. They won't say what the test was, they won't say who administered it and they won't say what the results were.

I said to someone else who was arguing that it must have been a legitimate test, "what if the test was an official walking into a room with her, saying, 'I know a man when I see one,' and walking out?" Because that could absolutely have been the test. We have zero clue apart from it not being a testosterone test.

[–] mightyfoolish 2 points 3 months ago

It's weird how people are filling in details into the Russian test. Russia was just salty their undefeated girl lost.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's clear as mud when I look at ioc website. I am not sure you or prior poster are correct though. It appears there are suppossed to be some regulations about who can participate in the women's category and that it may vary between sports. The new guidelines seem very nontransparant. If completely unregulated there is the opportunity for abuse. Your question of why is akin to asking why not simply allow athletes to self report if they are doping or not and simply allow them to participate without testing as long as they say they aren't.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so how would you define 'woman' so that it is universal enough to fit all types of women even if you don't include people who have 'boy' on their birth certificate?

Because there is no evidence Khelif is anything but a woman with a lot of strength and physical advantages as a boxer. Are we going to test Brittney Griner to see if she's a woman too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not on the ioc bro. I'm curious from someone that understands the policy to learn more about it as these are interesting topics. You clearly aren't the person to talk to though. I'm not interested in opinions.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Too bad opinion is all you're going to get for who qualifies as a woman to box other women since there's not one single organization and also no hard biological definition for what counts as "woman." But the IOC goes by what is on your birth certificate and passport. You may not like that they do that, but that doesn't really change what I said initially about what they say qualifies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Why don't you think that I like that? What is your source for that being the only criteria that is used and why are you ignoring the fact that they do say the criteria varies by event. You can have your opinions, but please don't try to superimposr any onto me.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 3 months ago

Again, it's not my opinion, it's the IOC's.