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[–] jordanlund 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What Biden knows is irrelevant. He's providing the support in good faith, Israel is abusing it. Specifically Bibi is abusing it. That is not Biden's fault.

[–] Viking_Hippie 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What Biden knows is irrelevant. He's providing the support in good faith

That's not how good faith works. Good faith is when you do something benevolent thinking that your actions aren't going to have negative repercussions.

The fact that he KNOWS that to not be the case means that he is NOT acting in good faith.

Putting a "for self defense only, not genocide" sticker on a bomb that you KNOW without a shadow of a doubt is going to be used to commit genocide does NOT absolve you of your responsibility to not knowingly contribute to the genocide.

Specifically Bibi is abusing it. That is not Biden's fault.

Right about the first part, wrong about the second.

While it's of course PRIMARILY the fault of Netanyahu, the fact that Biden knows and still keeps the weapons coming makes him an indispensable accessory to Netanyahu's crimes against humanity.

Without weapons there is no genocide. Most of the weapons come from the US. Ergo, without the US there is at WORST a genocide of a much smaller scale.

[–] jordanlund 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

noun: good faith

honesty or sincerity of intention.

"the details contained in this brochure have been published in good faith"

Biden believes, legitimately believes, Israel has the right to defend itself and provided honest and sincere support with that intent.

That is NOT the same as actively engaging in genocide.

[–] Viking_Hippie 1 points 3 months ago

Biden believes, legitimately believes, Israel has the right to defend itself and provided honest and sincere support with that intent.

That's all well and good, but when he knows that they're being used for genocide and STILL sends them, his stated intent doesn't matter since he KNOWS that it's not going to be fulfilled.

To go back to your own analogy about lunch/drug money:

If you give a guy $20 a day for lunch every day and every day you see him spending that money on drugs, how long can you keep watching the originally unintended consequence of your generosity before putting two and two together and realizing that what you're doing is paying for drugs, no matter how much either of you pretends that you're just giving him lunch money?