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[–] [email protected] 147 points 3 months ago (7 children)

“I lost my son, essentially,” Musk said. He used Wilson’s birth name, also known as a deadname for transgender people, and said she was “dead, killed by the woke mind virus.”

i don't have kids but i can't even comprehend someone saying something like that about their own child

[–] FlyingSquid 91 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's nothing compared to what she's said he's said to her directly. No exact quotes, but she made it pretty clear that he was constantly saying homophobic things to her. And that was before she transitioned and he just thought she was gay.

[–] Mirshe 47 points 3 months ago

This is sadly a pretty common thing for trans people.

[–] BranBucket 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm no psychologist or sociologist, but it seems that most of the people who treat their kids this way had kids because of external expectations or for status. They treat their kids like property or as an extension of themselves. Raising them to be cis no matter what is not about their child's well-being, it's about how having a trans child makes them look in the eyes of their bigoted, greedy, status-seeking, peers. When their kids come out as trans, they see this as a personal attack on their place in the pecking order.

In general, they treat even their cis children like shit, because they don't think of their children as people, children are just assets in what they think is some kind of cosmic dick measuring contest.

It's incomprehensible because it's pathological and generally sick.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, the thought/behavior patterns aren't unique to transphobia. I always refer back to this beautiful guardian op ed https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo

It's a work of art I love it so much. wish some voice actor would do a dramatic reading.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

the most disrespectful part of it all was that she never even looked at it

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He’s just building up his conservative cred.

Harden the mind against silly weak things like compassion: check

Treat your family like property: check

“Woke mind virus”: lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Luckily, you sound like you consider kids to be their own individuals and not little copies of yourself for you to control like puppets.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for every parent.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Robert Evan’s (AKA Podcast Daddy) had a piece about this. His denial of his daughter’s transition is of a piece with his pro-natalist stance and his desire to colonize space. He is trying to become immortal. His child transitioning marks her as her own person, rather than an extension of him, which reinforces the fact that he will die one day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

How does that reinforce it? I want to be immortal too, but I want my kids to be independent and strong.

I can't wrap my head around how someone who wants to be a transhuman would have a problem with transgender humans. How does he not see that leopard coming to eat his face?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 5 points 3 months ago

I can't imagine saying stuff like this about someone else's kids, let alone my own. I have a non-binary kid, who I love with all my heart. The only thing my wife and I want them to be is happy. I get that having your kid tell you that they're the wrong gender is hard to deal with - I don't want to minimize that - but it's not like it's harder than what the kids themselves are dealing with.