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It was frightening, and all too familiar. The family had previously been forced to flee as a wildfire bore down on another mountain town they called home: Paradise.

Now, with their path blocked and a horizon swallowed by flames, Kristy had an eerie feeling they were going to lose all they’d fought to build.

“I kind of knew then, like, we’re never coming home again — again, again,” she said.

The Camp fire, the deadliest in California history, devastated Paradise in 2018, consuming thousands of homes, including the Daneaus’.

They relocated to the town of Cohasset, putting them in the direct path of another wildfire, one that has since become the state’s fifth largest on record. Within just six years, the family again found themselves in jeopardy.

The trio eventually made it to safety, trekking seven hours down an unpaved loggers’ road to Chico. But their home in Cohasset was no match for an inferno’s fury.

“We’re starting completely over, again,” said Michael Daneau, 41. Every property they’ve ever owned has “burned to the ground with no value and nothing to our name.”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but you cannot pretend that is an easy decision, or even a feasible one for most folks.

Why would they move from Paradise to another town so close by? Is it because they’re idiots?

Doubt it. I’ll bet their livelihood is tied to that area, quite possibly generationally. How feasible do you think it is for members of the Paradise farming community to uproot and move to a new location?

Their entire lives are rooted in that community. Leaving it could be as disastrous as the fire. They’re recovery is likely tacked into that very community, all trying rebuild as best as possible.

That is quite likely a reality here & everyone in this thread wants to treat these poor folks like idiots.

But sure… blame their “decisions”. Blame the entire town for not getting out of the way of climate change.

[–] stoly 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really hear you making a lot of excuses. People move across the world by the millions each day at much greater hardship. These people can find a home in some place safer without completely upending their lives--even the next town over might have been a better decision here.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not making excuses, I have first experience with natural disasters wiping out homes & the struggle families face on where to rebuild.

The fact that you can not fathom that someone might have roots, generations worth, put down in a community is absurd. You’re being flat out obtuse.

If you seriously think people have the ability to just relocate after losing everything then I can no longer help you.

You have judged someone who has lost everything twice. The only excuse I’m hearing is your excuse for not caring.

Take care.

[–] stoly 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have first experience with natural disasters wiping out homes

There it is. This is why you made it personal. You're projecting your personal trauma onto others.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No partner, this conversation with me & you? This is not personal. You're just an angry little speed bump, hatefully wishing ill on complete & total strangers, slowing up my scroll.

My context with this content is personal, but my conversation with you isn’t. You have proven not be worth any personal investment.

I do know people who have been impacted by natural disasters, but even if I didn’t, I would have the common fucking decency not wish your brand of judgement on anyone else.

You keep on hating everyone out there pal. Just keep on blaming others for shit they can’t change & spreading your rotgut foulness wherever you go!

Me? Im gonna go be a decent human.

[–] stoly 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It was a terrible mistake for me to have become involved with someone so unstable, and I very much regret it. It is hard to know when a good faith conversation will set someone off, and I walked into that here. You need to heal from your traumas. Those are not my fault, and are clouding your perception of the world.

We're done. I regret encountering you, but will block you now so that I cannot happen again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hey bud, i see you downvoting me. What’s the matter? Blaming people for their misfortune didn’t help you feel better?

Take breath, there will be another natural disaster tomorrow & you can feel superior to others when you’re feeling a bit better.

[–] idiomaddict 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought you were being a scootch unfair with this response, but I was very wrong.

[–] stoly 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really try to be impersonal but may have pushed a bit hard. A review of their post history indicates professional level trolling.

[–] idiomaddict 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, my instincts are just bad lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

HEY CHECK IT OUT!!! There’s been a 6.9 earthquake in the Philippines! You can blame some more victims!!!!

If you get there quick, you can be the first comment on the post!!

Go pal! It’s your favorite pastime!! Victim Blaming!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unstable? I’m not the one wishing ill on strangers. No I’ve never said it was your fault, I just said it wasn’t the victims fault.

I’m not the one blaming victims of natural disasters. You are.

And you do it from a distance, over the internet…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This one could be fun. This was teenager who was found a pond!

Whose fault is it this time? The teenager? The parents? The pond?

I’m dying to know who you’ve deemed worthy of fault for this one.