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No bullet touched him, it's not like in the movies, if a round had even grazed his ear it would have removed a nice chunk of it. Extremely fast objects don't slice you nice and cleanly.
They were saying it was most likely a piece of the teleprompter that nicked his ear.
Yep, why the FBI is wanting to basically look into it.
The FBI has already confirmed that he was struck by a bullet
Did they? I thought they told congress they were not sure.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf
So they've not been able to talk to the doctors, just got the info from trump himself lol
Question: can a doctor be compelled (say through court order?) to violate patient confidentiality for the purposes of a criminal investigation? I would think the FBI could make that happen.
They're the FBI, I don't see how they couldn't.
Do you have a source?
This was the information that I had been provided, however to find this information I had to go to Snopes, which debunked that claim, so now I don't know what to believe
you got one that isn't just
republicans say FBI revised that it was a bullet that took out half his ear?
Read the first sentence
Funny how no one has the actual release just those words saying fbi totally said it
Yes they did:
'“What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole or fragmented into smaller pieces, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle,” the agency said in a statement.'
again waiting for the actual release for it.
cause nothing on their site: https://www.fbi.gov/feeds/national-press-releases/RSS
I would guess it was just sent to AP, unless you're claiming its some broad conspiracy??
What? If is a light graze, yes they would just scrape(or even penetrates thin cartilage)- even if its hollow-point if the target is thin enough.
Shrapnel creates jagged punctures. JHPs do not work the way you think. They mushroom out to create a larger wound channel. FMJs are much more likely to fragment into pieces upon impact. The FBI apparently is taking trumps word for it, but odds are trump being hit with something one of the bullets hit.
So?? I'm confused what that has anything to do with whether he was grazed, or penetrated lightly.
Yes in flesh.
Fragmenting nor expansion are going to happen in something as thin as an ear.
I don't endorse this Youtuber, but its pretty clear that amount of flesh takes basically no energy from the bullet
Trump's ear isn't a steel plate, its a very thin piece of flesh, it doesn't absorb much energy before breaking.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_gelatin#Calibration] I'm no physicist, but if a smaller and much slower BB penetrates over 3.3in through solid flesh, I think the less than half an inch of an ear will not absorb much of the bullets energy.
I think you're missing the point here, the knick he had on his ear was so damn small that it's way more likely it was a piece of something from the podium vs a piece of a bullet. The angle also mean if that was a round or piece of a round his head would have been in the way.
Why does it being small make that more likely? There is a photo of a bullet going right past his head.
Do you have a source for that?
Exactly, a picture of one going right past his head, he was damn near at a right angle to the shooter. He didn't turn fully to star at the shooter, so unless he's made of ar500 plates the odds of that being a bullet is basically 0.
Well he had just turned, but there are breakdowns where you can see pretty clearly how it happened. But yea, it was very unlikely that he survived- that's what everyone said. Yet it happened.