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[–] chuckleslord 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The last time MN voted R in the presidential election was before Reagan. Yeah, we've been weakening in that regard over the last decade, but with a strong D governor and Trump running, there's no fucking way MN flips.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

we've been weakening in that regard over the last decade

That's the thing, we really haven't. 2016 got a lot of press because Trump lost by the narrowest margin since Bush vs Gore, but if you look at the actual vote totals, Trump didn't do any better than the last 4 Republicans, slightly worse than Romney and Bush in 2004, in fact. The only reason it was as close as it was was due to the terrible turnout by Dems for Hillary in 2016. 2020 results were back in line with the norm, with Biden winning by 7+ points. So don't believe the media's click bait hype, Minnesota is not and never was in play. (Of course, that doesn't mean we don't need to vote, and don't forget the down ballot races, which are arguably more important. And have you all voted in your primary yet? Early voting is open, election day is August 13th)

[–] cybersandwich 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If he's going there, someone much smarter than him sees something in the data that gives them a glimmer of hope.

[–] chuckleslord 2 points 4 months ago

The same thing they always see. The iron range is becoming less blue, which should mean we're becoming more competitive. Except that's been true for a long time, and has become LESS true in the last 4 years as unions are winning power back. It's just people not from around her equating Wisconsin and the Dakotas with Minnesota.