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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

60% of people under 30 didn't vote during the last election, the majority of them support the Democrats.

"We can't do anything to improve things at home, let's move somewhere else."

Fuck off, other countries aren't your consolation prize, fix your own shit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Do you have a source that those people leaving are the ones that didn't vote? I would guess that people who consider a measure as drastic as leaving your home country, would vote above average.

Furthermore, I would expect that mainly well-educated people are leaving the US, simply because it's much easier to get a work permit elsewhere. And high education typically also correlates with higher participation in elections.

I didn't have much time right now to a deeper research on these stand points. So if I'm wrong, I'd highly appreciate any sources.

[–] jaybone 7 points 3 months ago

lol source is the OP’s article.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I left the US, and I vote. (Though voting absentee is super annoying)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Direct quote from the article:

“That being said, I am happy to give up my right to vote as a trade for a significantly better quality of life. It’s cleaner, it’s safer. There’s more opportunity in mobility,” she said.

“There’s no one on this planet who could be that bad of a person that we need to assassinate just to keep them out of the presidency,” Christian said. “How radical the American culture and society is getting in its entirety is making me go, ‘I really need to get out of here.’”

Christian and Salah said they won’t be voting, and Do said she is still learning about the process for voting abroad right now.

“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but quotes from two random people are not a serious source to prove that non-voters are leaving the US or vice versa. That's what you call anecdotal evidence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In the article's example they are, in other cases they might not be but they're still the people who have the most influence over other people their age who don't vote and they're the people who should get involved instead of abandoning ship if they believe the system doesn't work for them.

[–] Archer 1 points 3 months ago

They absolutely still have the right to vote from abroad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I never said they are (in general, in the article they actually are), but they sure as hell have the power to push people their age to vote!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

Yes, fix the shit by kicking out the triumvirate of policians, corporations and military altogether, not by voting for lesser evil and dealing with shame after legitizming brazen, out of touch geriatric fucks; hoping that just one more legal act will prevent business from torching the planet, manipulating prices, avoiding taxation, eliminating competition, trampling down consumer rights and exploiting workers; or that there might ever be a good war and a bad peace and gaslighting yourself that it's for a just cause and not spheres of influence and profits off the backs of countries treated like the disputed territories of 'Nineteen Eighty-Four'.