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[–] Soup 211 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It would be an awful lot easier than trying to salvage Biden’s image as it stands. If they do it right this should be super easy, but if they drag their heels on the changes necessary then it might be a lot harder.

This is BIG opportunity to rebrand and show what really matters to the party.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is the perfect opportunity to do that! But I have absolutely zero faith in them actually doing that.

But maybe I’ve become jaded in my age with politics. Maybe they won’t just choose the worst possible option.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they won’t just choose the worst possible option.

Her turn 2.0 watch out yall here comes Hillary! /$

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Lol seriously.

Also “Her Turn” as a campaign slogan was so bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I think the fact that the party was willing to do this says a lot. They've already avoided the worst possible option, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/johnson-replacing-biden-ticket-wrong-unlawful/story?id=112129063

I'm sure it will all work out when Republicans contest the new candidate... Fuck me what is this idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are they going to force Biden to run against his will or what is the plan here? If Biden dies, are Democrats not allowed to run at all because they aren't allowed to replace him.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

are Democrats not allowed to run at all because they aren’t allowed to replace him.

Bingo.

[–] kautau 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah this was the point all along

[–] Nurgle 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dems haven’t even officially nominated anyone yet, dont think the republicans would get very far with that stunt

[–] kautau 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Who’s going to stop them? The Supreme Court?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

If you think they're that off the rails then they don't need this as a premise to challenge Democrats in the first place.

[–] dohpaz42 4 points 4 months ago

The thing is, it’s not the Democratic Party replacing Biden anymore. Biden has willfully stepped down, and given his support to Harris. To put it another way, Biden is no longer “being replaced”.

But, that may not matter in the long run. The question now is when/if Republicans take this to court, and whether or not the judge decides to hear the case or not and how long that will take.

As far as I know, judges have historically decided not to pursue a case if it would impede the election process (e.g., gerrymandered district ruled illegal, but still used because not enough time to redraw maps). I would like to hope that the Democratic Party gets the same curtsy in this case.

However, I feel that right now given the current political climate, and the current way judges have been deciding in favor of the Republican agenda, this may not be the case and the new candidate will be tied up in legal tape to be able to campaign properly. The Republicans will cease upon this opportunity and use it against the Democratic Party to make them look weak and unable to do anything they say they will do. And to be honest, they won’t be wrong.

Democrats are their own worst enemy, and their hubris will be to all of our detriment.

https://youtu.be/-lm0Cy8gwvk

[–] Soup 3 points 4 months ago

You can tell it’s a good move when the GOP starts pulling this shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

from the article

Election law expert Richard Hasen wrote that there is "no credence" to the notion that the Democratic Party could not legally replace Biden on the ticket, as he is not the nominee yet -- the nominating process generally takes place during the Democratic National Convention.

[–] Tujio 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Booo the DNC just made an unprecedented pivot which the people actually wanted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nervously optimistic, but I've been hurt before

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 5 points 4 months ago

It's not going to be perfect. It's not going to even inspire people for the next 4 years. What it will do is get us to January where we, hopefully can rightfully calibrate like we should have in 2020. No matter the winner, THIS DOES NOT END IN NOVEMEBER. Remember that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Was Bidens image really that bad outside of these internet circles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well Rs certainly hated his guts for totally real reasons

[–] assassin_aragorn 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah it was going to be impossible to properly move forward from this. There would be too much media coverage and division and lingering questions.

Now though, we have a real opportunity to unify, and make several arguments to voters -- Democrats listened and picked a younger candidate. We can also flip the script on candidate age now

[–] Nastybutler 0 points 4 months ago

Have you met the DNC?