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[–] NateNate60 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, fuck. I just lost $60 on a bet over this

[–] timewarp 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

$60 well lost for a better candidate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I'll match that donation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

He was literally doing the job and doing it well.

Some of the accomplishments:

Lowering Costs of Families' Everyday Expenses. More People Are Working Than At Any Point in American History. Making More in America. Rescued the Economy and Changed the Course of the Pandemic. Rebuilding our infrastructure. Historic Expansion of Benefits and Services for Toxic Exposed Veterans. CHIP Act

Here is the full list of his accomplishments.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, but the comparison I like here is Ruth Bader Ginsberg. She wasn't just doing her job well, she was one of the best Supreme Court Justicies EVER.

She didn't resign when the time was right, and as a result she died under Trump, a republican got her seat, and all the great things she did were swiftly demolished, wrecking decades of work over one single mistake: Not knowing when to step down.

Now I know the situation isn't perfectly comparable. But if Trump gets in, then every good thing Biden has done will be swiftly undone. This was a hellish dilemma, but if Biden wants to do his job well, he needs to do that by not letting Trump into the White House again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

My mom doesn't like when I talk about how badly RBG fucked the people she legitimately worked so hard to uplift and protect, in my opinion because of her ego. I hold very little resentment because I understand wanting to personally preserve your legacy, but that motivation seems to fail more often than allowing someone else to preserve it for you.

[–] timewarp 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He wasn't going to beat Trump. Why would you want Trump to win?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points 5 months ago

Booo. Biden was a rubber stamper. He never had a progressive thought in his life.

[–] rsuri 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Except he was failing at the most important job - stopping another 4 years of Trump. And yes, that's partly the media's fault, but it's mostly Biden's fault. Trump's debate performance matched what could've been predicted pretty closely, and Biden failed to rebut Trump effectively and often seemed to help Trump argue against himself. For example, they should've easily foreseen that Trump would do the weird brag about his cognitive test scores. Why was there no response to that? Why not demand that Trump produce the results instead of just brag about them, or point out that nobody asked or is impressed by his ability to read a clock? There were like 50 opportunities during that debate for Biden to end Trump's whole campaign, he missed each one.

Clearly this was unacceptable, and I hope the next candidate dispenses with the vast majority of Biden's election team.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

IMO, as an outsider, he has done a great job.
Among many successes that have drifted across my news feeds, he has also excelled past the really low bar of "not making a mockery of the US".

That statement is not exclusive from the statement that "Biden should not run again".

It's 4 years later. And he would have to do another 4 years if he won.
I know presidents are more than just a person in the same way a ship can't sail with only it's captain. But strong leadership is going to make everything easier.
And Biden is old.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 2 points 5 months ago

Better then losing your country.