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Trump assassination attempt: More than a dozen guns found at suspected shooter's home
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Little bit of hunting experience here. Let's say I'm hunting a deer.
If I miss no big deal. The problems begin when the shot hits the deer but doesn't kill it. Their adrenaline sours the meat. And, one needs to chase it down to humanely kill it. No matter how hard I try I'll eventually miss and maim a deer.
I do two things preventatively: First, I don't take a shots without good chance of a one shot kill. Second, I'm always prepared ASAP to send the second round, and a third. My accuracy drops severely for the fourth in practice. So, I don't shoot a fourth outside of practice.
This shooter couldn't close the range for a better shot. He also wasn't prepared for a miss. The second round should be down range almost immediately, even on a bolt action and especially on a wisely chosen bolt action. He was a smidgeon of humility away from a greatly increased chance of success.
I hate to be the one to point this out buuut there's an even more humane thing you could do. Y'know. Just saying.
If it's anything like where I grew up, the deer population is massive and actually benefits from controlled culling. Also venison is delicious, and I know some hunters will literally give the extra meat away since a single deer has a lot of it, oftentimes to food pantries.
Obligatory disclaimer: I'm leftist as fuck and actually prefer a low meat diet. But deer hunting does have benefits.
Exactly. They feed on the local crops and we can't magically make wolves and coyotes appear. There's many negative impacts of not hunting, including many car accidents. And, it's meat raised on crops stolen from mega-corporations that are artificially inflating the cost of food.
Once we take back the means of production and begin to heal the environmental cause of too much deer, I'll stop hunting and eating them. Fair?
They actually hire professionals to shoot deer in some urban areas in Pennsylvania where they cause problems. Farmers hire professionals because of the massive crop damage they do. Hunters are free deer harvesters, in fact they pay to hunt them.
Deer are out of control because we hunted all the predators because meat farms needed to protect their product.
You've slotted yourself into the place of natural predators, but that does not actually fix anything!
I think you're underplaying the historical significance of wool and how agricultural lands for growing plants also played a massive role in destroying the habitat of those predators (toss in timber in there too).
Yes and now it's on the citizens to take the place of those missing natural predators - the meat farms sure aren't going to do it, especially by your logic.
You kind of just talked yourself into a circle.
Beats industrial farming
When you mow your grass does it try to run away because it's scared of dying?
Let me clarify because apparently it wasn't obvious. My stance is that industrial raised livestock often experience poor quality living conditions. Hunting offers a death far less insufferable than most deer would see otherwise, and a regulated harvest is critical in areas that deer's natural predators have been extirpated like much of the populated US. Without this populations would bloom past the carrying capacity of the ecosystem leading to disease, famine, and increased death on both parties in auto accidents.
The people eating venison are swapping it in for a steak not a salad. People make jokes about vegans because of individuals who don't acknowledge that animal welfare isn't a binary matter but one on a spectrum. Painting it as a binary simply dissuades non vegans from taking any incremental step to increasing their welfare.
Better than starvation or jumping in front of cars.