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[–] gAlienLifeform 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

@[email protected] made a really good comment here that I think starts to answer this

I imagine it’s just incredibly difficult to take your job super seriously when any given thing only happens like once every 5-10 years, and probably not to you. I imagine most secret service people who are doing security spend 100% of their careers just standing around and then retire with nothing having happened.

At one point, US embassy security details had this problem, and what they settled on was rotating active-duty combat troops in straight from the field so they were super alert. After about 6 months they would start to relax, and they would rotate them out and have fresh people.

I won’t claim to know what the answer is for the SS but clearly there are some issues with the way they’re doing it.

I could see something like - someone is the best of the best, gets selected for a very prestigious Secret Service posting, then nothing happens and they just have to pick up dry cleaning and watch the fanciest and most pretentious people in the world attend cocktail parties for several years, and eventually they end up visiting sex workers and drinking on duty and things like that

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a really good point, it must be hard keeping them on top of their game.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I am not in security, but I have worked in secure areas. The way you prevent issues is having multiple layers of security that watch each other.

Like you prevent individual employees from committing fraud by having other employees sign off on their work. Then you prevent those employees from colluding to commit fraud by having another group of employees monitor their actions. Finally a third group of employees audits everyone occasionally (at random).

This way it requires at least 4 people who don't know each other to do anything illegal. I'm sure the Secret Service could do with some audits. Like literally have an entire team of Secret Service people test them, trying to trick them into making a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Somewhat unrelated topic, but this is why driving is so dangerous at a population level. Most of the time, nothing happens even if you take a bunch of risks. But if enough risks occur at the same time, people die (Swiss cheese model).