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[–] Redredme 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Discovery, especially the last 2 seasons are very, very inclusive. Which pisses some people off.

Next to that everything is debated. Sometimes way too long. And if you cant look past that it's sure to annoy you very much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol at people getting uppity over diversity. Like, that's Star Treks' most defining characteristics.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For me, it wasn't so much the diversity, it was that everyone seemed to be struggling with their diverse identity. It's the 23rd century, people should not be uncomfortable with their identities anymore, ESPECIALLY the crew of an advanced space ship. It just seems that rather than a professional crew that we see in every other Star Trek show, they decided to pack this one with a bunch of high schoolers struggling to figure out who they are. For fuck sakes, the ship itself starts having an identity crisis at one point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My push back would be that the crew is from pre utopia federation. I think your take is reasonable though

[–] Blue_Morpho 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's only 10 years before TOS. Earth and the federation were already post capitalism utopias.

[–] Stamets 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

. It’s the 23rd century, people should not be uncomfortable with their identities anymore

And people are totally comfortable. I am guessing that you're referencing Adira and their reaction to announcing that they're non-binary? That didn't happen in the 23rd century. It happened in the 32nd in an area torn with strife and isolationist behavior that is also not a part of the Federation. Their reaction is appropriate for the setting. There's a reason that Culber and Stamets are gay without addressing it. Because they are from the 23rd century where that isn't an issue.

For fuck sakes, the ship itself starts having an identity crisis at one point.

.... It's a newly born AI that is being threatened with being severed from its physical housing. Yeah I feel like that's kind of appropriate as well. I mean when they did that in TNG there was Measure of a Man... so...