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So it won’t matter if she replaces him, right? I mean, if it doesn’t matter who the candidate is with polling, then changing the candidate shouldn’t matter, right? Like, why are we keeping Biden if it doesn’t matter who the candidate is? Theoretically, if it doesn’t make a difference who the nominee is, and it won’t change anything, then changing the nominee shouldn’t be a problem, right?
It more has to with polls. If the electorate is more or less set, then the numbers game turns into a get out the vote campaign. There is no reason to think that the candidate will have an affect on that, unless of course if you've already voted for them once
If polling is static for all potential candidates, then what harm can come from changing them? Why fight so hard for a candidate that you know is going to lose, unless you want that candidate to lose? 🤨
First of all - more or less static
Second ‐ it stops being who do you want as President, and who you'll drag your ass to the polls for.
Current polls don't answer that
Then you should have no problem changing the candidate, right? Right?
Unless there is a motivating factor of already voting for Biden which weakens GOTV...
We aren't "keeping" Biden, the primary process was when other people could run against him and we got to pick. Now that he has secured the nomination, only one person on Earth decides if Biden continues to run or not--Biden himself.
Unless he gets impeached and removed from office or something, which is not very likely.
Hell, he even gets immunity for all sorts of possible crimes now, thanks to the Supreme Court.
Democratic donors warn of campaign funds ‘drying up’ as Joe Biden holds on
Donors decide.
No, all they can do is stop donating. They cannot hold a gun to his head and control his actions.
That’s why you’re seeing a struggle within the party. It’s over, it’s been over, Biden just hasn’t accepted it yet.
Maybe, I don't know. I was just shooting down that standard DNC conspiracy theory nonsense. "Donors deciding" is just a step away from "Jews run the world", with the George Soros conspiracy theories being the step in the middle.
Common sense dictates that money does not grant you mind control powers, however, just sway.
This is an incredibly bad position. Saying that donors decide is nothing like saying "Jews run the world". It's not a conspiracy theory, it is a recognition that campaign funds are integral to a presidential election. If Biden can't bring in money then his campaign will fold.
Biden already possesses a huge amount of donor money, and cannot run again in the future. Additionally, Biden gets almost half his money from small donors.
https://www.opensecrets.org/2024-presidential-race/small-donors
Influence gained by donation and control are not the same thing. Influence is real. Control is conspiracy theory bullshit.
Yeah, it’s probably a conspiracy theory, and Citizens United is just the name of a polka band.
I am not saying there is not a shitload of money in politics, it is true there is a ton of corporate money in our politics.
However, does the money grant control? Yes or no?
If I give you one billion dollars, you personally, could I then force you to do something you did not want to do? Murder a loved one perhaps? Or resign a presidency you've probably wanted your whole life?
Think about specifics, not vague bullshit. Money does not grant control, people retain their free will. It can only help convince. Lobby. Sway. Influence. Not control.
That's the line between reality and conspiracy theory bullshit.
Money doesn’t give you control over people, it influences decisions.
Why do we pay rent or mortgage? Do the landlords or banks control us, or influence us to pay? Why do cult leaders exists if adherents have “free will?” Are they controlled or manipulated?
If money didn’t influence and control politics, we would have gun regulations, healthcare, and climate reform.
It’s not a conspiracy theory.
There you go, trying to say control and influence are the same thing again, when they are two separate words with distinct meanings.
Why do we really have the system we do? Because only a fraction of Americans are progressive, and far more prefer neo-liberalism for the illusion of freedom it gives. Most voters still consider "the economy" to be the most important issue to them, not any sort of progressive values.
Now, part of this is due to corporate-controlled narratives, but it's still us exercising our free will. You do not have to pay your landlord, you could trek out into the Alaskan wilderness with a backpack and a tent if you really wanted. Nobody would show up with a gun to stop you.
I’m probably wrong.
Yes, that's called influence, isn't it, they are exerting pressure and trying to convince him, right? But he hasn't withdrawn yet, has he? Because ultimately, the one that makes the decision, is him. And he will make it.
If the best you've got is some guy's blog, you're not doing well. Anyone can make a blog online, and they can put anything protected by the First Amendment on it. You can find a blog saying absolutely anything, and this is probably how you've become radicalized into somehow believing in mind control, instead of simply remembering what an Average Middle American sounds like, and how they get what they vote for, resulting after enough decades in our current highly flawed system.
His Wikipedia. Where’s your Wikipedia?
Excuse me if I trust someone’s opinion that actually served in the United States government instead of a random person on the internet.
Credentials are great, but if he's trying to say that the ultimate choice of whether Biden stays in the race or not is someone aside's Biden's to make, then I put him alongside all the credentialed people that support other conspiracy theories. The Trump admin was full of them, and frankly, anyone can become radicalized.
I'm using basic sense to make my argument, even a child should be able to understand what I am saying. No credentials required. You just don't like it, because what you already believe is convenient and comfortable, even if you probably know it doesn't completely make sense.
Does money grant control? No. A child knows this.
The lack of coherence is staggering. I wish you the best.
See you around I suppose. Sorry if I've troubled you, but I think I make a lot of sense.