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I'm a long time Lemmy lurker and occasional Redditor. Since the Reddit influx, I've watched the frequency of shitty Reddit-type behavior, e.g., combative comments, trolling, and unnecessary rudeness, just sky rocket.

I'm happy to have more content on Lemmy, but I wish the bad actors and assholes would have stayed on Reddit.

Yes, I realize the irony of posting this on a new community that's basically a Reddit transplant.

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[–] Candelestine 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd like to emphasize another advantage we have--the general sense of self-rule and control. We actually have a modicum of power here, we're not just fueling profits for some spez. We can move around, organize however we wish.

This creates a naturally higher morale environment. I think things are a little, oh, excited right now, but I expect we'll probably settle down a little bit over the next few months, as people settle in more.

The trolls, though, those are here to stay I'm afraid. Internet is the internet, you need a private community to truly guarantee none of them forever. And even that doesn't always work. Hackers and bot attacks too, also here to stay. We're big enough to be a decent target now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The trolls, though, those are here to stay I'm afraid. Internet is the internet, you need a private community to truly guarantee none of them forever.

Can't that be mitigated with blocklists, like with ads or spam calls? Like imagine if you could subscribe to a blocklist where it's updated regularly. It could be self-maintaining. If 10 people block a certain account, it gets shadowbanned for every other subscriber.

[–] Candelestine 2 points 1 year ago

Most of them, yeah, probably. Though you'd need anti-abuse measures to prevent it from being weaponized. Would be hard to balance. And particularly good trolls can't be caught, too, that's half the point. They can really only be smothered by superior content and not upvoted. You don't really want to downvote them either, ideally.

Make them feel awkward and unengaged. That's the strongest defense.