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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (6 children)

american politeness requires that we not talk about politics

Is that really a thing?

[–] FlyingSquid 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People who talk about politics and religion at work tend to get hated at best and fired at worst.

People who talk about politics and religion on social media risk getting lectures from relatives and losing friends.

So yeah, people do not talk about politics and religion in America a lot of the time.

Honestly, the only reason my mother-in-law and I have maintained a really good relationship over the decades is because we just don't talk about religion or politics. My wife and I are pretty much on the opposite side of the map from her on both. So we just don't talk about it rather than become enemies. Maybe that's not the right way to go about things, but it's saved a lot of stress where we don't need it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Isn't that the same everywhere?

[–] FlyingSquid 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea. I was just explaining to the person above why we don't talk about it much.

And these days, with MAGA fanatics, there's also the possibility of actual physical harm.

[–] rayyy 7 points 4 months ago

the possibility of actual physical harm

Not only physical harm but social, economic, career and mental harm. They will definitely hurt you because the truth hurts their feelings.

[–] joneskind 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know about everywhere but in France we can talk about religion and politics everywhere we like without risking much. Sometimes we’ll argue loudly for about an hour, and then the next day everything is forgotten. Or at least that was the case. I don’t know how it will go if the fascist far-right wins the election tomorrow though…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That’s one of the things I’ve loved about France since university; a deep and unbridled passion for politics and no shame in standing up for what one believes in.

Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

No, but it's getting more and more so here (Sweden) too with the ongoing polarization.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

In my experience, yes. Mainly because for as long as I’ve been alive, if you have a dissenting opinion people tend to get very heated.

[–] Senokir 8 points 4 months ago

Obviously we still have political protesters and things like that but nowadays things are so divided politically that it is typically a topic that you would avoid in everyday conversation. If you were to bring up anything political with your coworker at a get together after hours for example and you find that you are on opposite ends of the political spectrum it could make it very difficult to work together at best and potentially endanger you at worst.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

American politeness? No

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

that and religion are no no's.

i googled it and found lots of treatises on the subject

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's more of a thing so you aren't constantly fighting with your family.