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Activists from around the country told The Intercept that they will advocate for an anti-war agenda at the convention in August and withhold their vote in November unless an adequate candidate steps up, listing policy priorities such as support for a permanent ceasefire and standing up to the pro-Israel lobby as it intervenes in Democratic primaries. Even as the Biden campaign insists that he will not step aside, many Democrats appear to be lining up behind Vice President Kamala Harris as an alternative candidate, with some Democratic governors being floated as well.

“My number one criteria for any candidate is opposing the genocide in Gaza,” said Saad Farooq, an uncommitted voter in Massachusetts. Farooq said it was unlikely that the Democratic National Committee would select any candidate who took a stance against Israel’s ongoing war, and that he would support Green Party candidate Jill Stein if she were to appear on the ballot in Massachusetts.

Will Dawson, an uncommitted voter in Washington, D.C., named several factors that could get him to switch his vote from the Green Party’s Stein to another politician. First on his list is a promise to call for an immediate ceasefire and fighting the influence of the pro-Israel lobby and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Congress.

“This candidate would also ideally work toward pulling further away from the Israeli colonial project over time, with the goal being repealing our absurd financial support, ending the foreign interest agency of AIPAC, and pushing for a nation-wide boycott a la [South Africa] during their apartheid,” Dawson wrote.

The candidate would also have to push to reform the Supreme Court, he added. “The candidate would have to promise to both push for justice impeachment, and expand the courts,” Dawson said.“If a replacement candidate met both of these requirements, I would absolutely consider switching my vote from Jill Stein. Hell, I might even knock doors/canvass for them!”

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[–] Ensign_Crab 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"We need to move to the right to pick up undecided voters"

"Undecided voters want to stop supporting Netanyahu's genocide."

"Man, fuck undecided voters. No one needs them. They're all morons. Let's ignore them and move to the right."

[–] MonkRome 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's not that simple, if gaining undecided votes comes at the cost of more votes than they gain then you're not going to win. That has been the struggle of the Dems for decades on every progressive issue.

[–] Ensign_Crab -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And they continue to assume that they can only pick up more votes by moving to the right.

Party leadership interprets all sensory input as an indicator that they get to move to the right.

[–] MonkRome 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Parties don't decide where the country moves politically, citizens do. If you want people to move left, you have to put in the work to change minds. You don't sway people at the ballot box. All voting is, is a poll of what people already think and parties try to match their candidates to that poll. The reason our politicians are terrible, is because our people are.

[–] Ensign_Crab -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Party leadershit isn't responsive to the will of the voters.

[–] MonkRome 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What I'm saying is, if you only show up on voting day and just complain all other days don't be surprised when the country moves right. Political change happens every single day of the year, voting is just the political act that reflects that work. We get wet farts like Biden because little of the work is done by the left the make substantive change to our culture. Much of the left views whining as a political act and no more.

[–] Ensign_Crab -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Move to the right and blame the left.

[–] MonkRome 0 points 4 months ago

Politicians aren't activists, you're just confused on how the system works. If you want politicians to change the only thing you can do is apply pressure through their constituents. That means changing minds and motivating people to action. Politicians want to stay in office and largely will be swayed by a shift in public opinion. The right wing is winning because their brand of crazy is highly motivated. It's easier to moan on the Internet than change minds and change laws.

But changing laws is not as hard as most people believe. A handful of motivated people can change a state law simply by convincing people in their district to call and apply pressure on their behalf. Constituent lobbying is incredibly effective, 10 people convince 10 people each to apply pressure to the right people and suddenly a 45/55 vote becomes 51/49 seemingly over night. I've been a part of that more than once to great success. You just gotta put in the work.

Changing minds is harder though, we are competing against media conglomerates that mostly don't care about truth. But it can happen with work.

Over time that work translates into different politicians, the state I'm in (Minnesota) keeps inching left a hair at a time because the work that is needed keeps happening. It doesn't happen fast, but it does happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

those aren't the undecided votes we want

[–] III 0 points 4 months ago

They aren't undecided at all. They know exactly what they are doing and it is absolutely not about Gaza at all. If they were truly concerned about Gaza they would not be undecided at all because there is only one viable choice.