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Very sad when libertarians (i.e. republicans that are too cowardly to publicly own that they are republicans) get burned so bad and don't have a collectively funded community Fire Department or public roads where anyone could travel to put out the fire.
A true libertarian community would have a collectively funded Fire Department and publicly funded roads.
Libertarians do not want to pay "taxes". Taxes are a portion of your money the government forcefully takes and does whatever they want with.
Public services that a libertarian uses, they would feel like they would have to pay for.
Joe drives to work. He takes a toll road (not saying toll roads are a good solution). He pays for the road that he is using.
Steve rides the bus to work. His bus ticket will have the cost of the roads fixed in.
Joe doesn't want to lose everything in a fire. He gets insurance. Insurance company doesn't want to lose the whole house. They get a fire department.
Right now we pay 100% of the fire department in taxes. While paying full price for insurance. Insurance companies get to use the fire department for free.
The idea that giving up ~40% of your work in hopes that the government takes care of you is ridiculous (Social Security is a government ran ponzi scheme). The idea that giving up ~40% of your work in hopes that the government takes care of someone else is also ridiculous.
The government used every penny of taxes you have paid or ever will pay to not even make a dent in the bail out of privately owned banks. Hell, they probably handed Tom Brady more than that in just the PPP loans he received and never had to pay back.
But life can't function without government taxes /s
No taxation without representation. Do you feel represented?
This is an actual example of what a libertarian town looks like.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/08/30/libertarians-took-control-of-this-small-town-it-didnt-end-well/
This is an actual example of what a socialist town looks like.
https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2020/02/the-failed-socialist-state-in-midwestern-america/
Okay? Do you have a need to pretend that I care about some Conservative Thinktank's views on some rich asshole's little project town in the 1800s? I mean, it's blatant propaganda, not even pretending to be a news site.
Or maybe they are, I don't care either way.
Also, a rich asshole cannot, by definition, be part of a socialist anything. Not if words have real meanings.
Some people left trash out, some bears came to town, so libertarian ideas are all bad. Yep makes sense.
You can look up New Harmony indiana if you'd like to find a more credible resource. That's just google's top result. It did happen.
Why am I going to go to work today to save lives in the emergency room if I got paid like everyone else? I had to go to years of schooling, my job is very stressful. Someone working making a hamburger should get the same wages as me?
It makes sense that a fully socialist society would fail. Even if it has a rich asshole trying to fund it. But you're right that's not truly socialism and if it couldn't work with injected funds from a rich asshole, it's going to work without it?
Too much of a good thing can be bad, just like in both examples.
It wasn't just "Some people left trash out and some bears came to town"
It was "Libertarians cut funding for trash service and any other essential government service and made the town unsafe, and also a fuck load of bears started living in town because of it"
Saner heads eventually took over and told the overgrown children to fuck off, and now the town funds basic services again.
As to your weird obsession with making me socialist because I think libertarians have about as much sense as an elderly house cat, complete with kitty dementia, well, keep after if it makes you happy.
Lol you're funny
At least "failed socialist state" somewhere in Europe and Asia left us with UHC and increased literacy rate from 5% to 100%. What did those wild capitalism experiments left?
If at first you don't succeed, give up and never try again.